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Need some feedback guys

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by BlacknWhite, Jan 20, 2014.

  1. Hey guys just need some feedback. My current rig is a Hartke LH500 in a rack with multi effects, power conditioner and sonic maximizer and run it into an Ampeg SVT 610HLF (600watts). My band gigs a lot and I move my gear on my own as I live in the middle of nowhere lol. The Ampeg 610 is killing my back and have the option to pick up two Ampeg B-410HE (200 watts each). I have never had a rig where my Head over powers my cabs.... With a 500 watt head and two cabs 400 watts in total as long as I'm not running it full out shouldn't be much of an issue?

    Thanks in advance!
  2. DiabolusInMusic

    DiabolusInMusic Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism Supporting Member

    Can the amp handle the cabs? I am assuming the cabs are rated for 8 ohms a piece, if they are 4 ohm cabs they will cook that head. I wouldn't imagine it to blow speakers instantly but listen for stressing, pretty much any head can blow any cabinet, all it takes is a poor EQ job.

    If you want to save weight I highly recommend tossing the power conditioner (and the BBE, but that is my preference)
  3. aphexafx

    aphexafx A mind is a terrible thing.

    Dec 10, 2013
    Denver, Colorado
    Designer - Big Machine Electronics
    It's not an issue at all, as long as you mind your impedance total and your amps minimum impedance rating. The power rating on your amplifier and the ones for your cabs are not meant to be matched perfectly as they have different meanings and are measured using different signals.

    It looks like your amp is rated to drive a minimum of 4 Ohms, so if you are running your new cabs in parallel then they need to be rated at 8 Ohms minimum each. If they are 8 Ohm cabs then you are good to go and driving them together as a single 400W cab from a 500W amp is absolutely fine. Optimal even because its always better to have more amp than drivers, to a point.
  4. Yeah the head 4ohm minimum and the cabs are 8ohm each. I just like the power conditioner as it gives me the extra power outlets right in my rack, I don't run my head through it.
  5. Yeah the cabs are rate at 200 useable power and 400 peak
  6. aphexafx

    aphexafx A mind is a terrible thing.

    Dec 10, 2013
    Denver, Colorado
    Designer - Big Machine Electronics
    Then you're good to go. 500W head into 400W cab(s) is a good match.
  7. christw

    christw Get low!

    May 11, 2008
    Dayton OH
    I want to be Tesla (tinkerer at Dayton Amp Co)
    Keep in mind that the cabs will have a different voicing-more low mids and less depth. Otherwise, you're good to go!
  8. thanks for the input guys, much appreciated
  9. will33


    May 22, 2006
    The setup will be fine.

    Another vote here though to ditch the Sonic Minimizer and the glorified powerstrip.

    That'll leave you one cord to plug in the wall (the amp), as well as shave off both size and weight from the unit you're using to drive your cabs.....a single 2 or 3 U amp....that's it. Those other stuff are contributing nothing to your tone, IMO.

  10. Haha didn't think I'd get this much slack over the Furman and BBE! I like the furman purely for the fact I can plug in my effects and power my pedal board right from my rack. As far as the BBE I just have it if I am at a gig with crappy acoustics and I'm having trouble cutting through the mix I use it to boost my high end.
  11. Mortom27


    Jul 22, 2013
    Charlotte, NC
    I wouldn't trade my 610hlf for nothing, I know it's heavy but hey that's just me
    on a different note: if u like the BBE SM so much maybe u can try the stomp box version, it does wonder for your sound and is light weight.
  12. I know man, I really didn't want to get rid of my 610hlf... love it but my back can't handle it anymore lol. I havn't tried the BBE stomp yet. My rack system does not really bother me though. The 610 is just so awkward to transport by yourself.
  13. Mortom27


    Jul 22, 2013
    Charlotte, NC
    I hear you bro, i used to own a 810
    Haul that big fridge around for 4 years
    Untill my back said "enough" Lol
    Good luck with the new set up
  14. Well I got the cabs... And damn they sound sweet and so much easier on my back lol

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  15. Mortom27


    Jul 22, 2013
    Charlotte, NC
    Sweet!!, are they 8 ohms?, how many watts? (rms)
  16. Yep they are 8 ohms and RMS is 200 watts each. But I can't really tell the difference from these cabs and my 610 which is rated at 600 watts. So much easier to move around! It was a good choice for sure.