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Need some Fender expertise on a pawn shop find...

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Cnivek61, Oct 31, 2018.


  1. Cnivek61

    Cnivek61

    Jul 17, 2017
    I came across this bass in a pawn shop: Fender MIM Jazz neck, but the body looks like a P bass with the pickguard removed and smaller custom covers installed, and a non-standard pickup - definitely not routed for a 2 pickup Jazz configuration.

    Who can shine some light? Is this a Franken-Fender?

    IMG_20181031_170506.

    IMG_20181031_170510.

    IMG_20181031_170526.
     
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  2. jackn1202

    jackn1202

    Feb 14, 2018
    Austin, TX
    Franken P? Definitely. Badass? Definitely. If it plays right, then that price is right. Might change the pickguard(s) though.
     
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  3. wvbass

    wvbass Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2004
    West Virginia
    Do those come with that swimming pool rout so that all the previous owner had to do was chop the pick guard and swap the pickup?
     
  4. Copperhead

    Copperhead Still creakin' around. Supporting Member

    Jul 29, 2018
    Tennessee
    My guess is that someone thought a double J would be a great idea in a p bass. It's been done, like in the Blacktop models, just not one alone but in pairs like a J.
    Anyway, a clean job but pretty obviously a Franken P IMHO. It's worth that in parts, and you could re-P it pretty easily too.
    I like to build parts basses, I could see myself finding it a worthy project bass if the neck was good.
     
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  5. Cnivek61

    Cnivek61

    Jul 17, 2017
    Tell me more about the "double J", please. Do you mean 2 J bass pickups side-by-side in a P cavity? If so, how would they be wired?
     
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  6. Copperhead

    Copperhead Still creakin' around. Supporting Member

    Jul 29, 2018
    Tennessee
    This is a Fender Blacktop model. It uses two pickups that are essentially two single coil Jazz bass pickups under one cover wired as a humbucker. They are fairly common as a Bridge pickup on other bass models, much more rare in the mid position.

    blacktop.
     
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  7. Copperhead

    Copperhead Still creakin' around. Supporting Member

    Jul 29, 2018
    Tennessee
    Kramer Pioneer 80's Schaller pickups.

    kramer.
     
  8. Copperhead

    Copperhead Still creakin' around. Supporting Member

    Jul 29, 2018
    Tennessee
    Fender Roscoe Beck IV.

    Being 4 wire humbuckers, double J's can be wired in a variety of ways.

    Roscoe.JPG
     
  9. wraub

    wraub

    Apr 9, 2004
    ennui, az
    previated devert
    Blacktop P Jazz?

    Good price, too.
     
  10. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    Meh. Unless it really play/sounds nice, your money would be better spent on a new Squier.
     
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  11. Lee Kirkham

    Lee Kirkham

    Jan 14, 2013
    Gilbert, AZ
    Something is telling me that is a Japanese body.
     
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  12. Never mind that. We'd better organize a search party to find that missing tort!
     
  13. How's it play? More importantly, hows it sound?
     
  14. Cnivek61

    Cnivek61

    Jul 17, 2017
    I didn't get to play it - went in just before closing, strings were loose, took a while to find an amp that worked, then the owner kicked everybody out 5 minutes after closing. Not sure I'll be able to hear what it really sounds like anyway unless they have a decent amp - it's a pawn shop, not a music store. Will probably go back, though.
     
  15. Ehh, as long as you can plug it in, and it checks out, you shouldn't need much of an amp to make a decision. But, I like the way it looks. It the neck isn't warped, and the pickup(plural) is wired solid, I'd probably pick it up.
     
  16. jd56hawk

    jd56hawk

    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
    You can talk him down to $200, right?
     
  17. Bring your own amp, I do it if I'm serious about buying something.

    That Blacktop pickup has 4 wires, so you could put in a series/parallel switch, or even do it as a push/pull pot.

    If it was my local pawn I'd offer $230 out the door, if I really liked it.
    Maybe you'll get lucky & there's a case included.

    You might even be able to get a Blacktop Precision pickguard to fit that.
     
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  18. Cnivek61

    Cnivek61

    Jul 17, 2017
    What makes you think the body is Japanese?
     
  19. Cnivek61

    Cnivek61

    Jul 17, 2017
    Now you're talkin'! I rescued a Yamaha bass with messed up wiring a few months ago and now I've got a bug for guitar wiring projects. Not really in love with this bass but could make an interesting project.
     
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  20. Copperhead

    Copperhead Still creakin' around. Supporting Member

    Jul 29, 2018
    Tennessee
    I'd make that bad boy back into a P bass with black pick guard in a hot minute. Love a J neck on a P !
     
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