Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Irmantas, Feb 10, 2021.

  1. Hey, guys, need advice.

    I have a P-Bass and a bunch of effects but have no clue how to squeeze out particular tone like in "The Soft Moon - Like A Father"

    Let me know if you have any ideas.

    Thank you.
  2. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
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    some sort of synth pedal would be my guess.
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  3. jking138


    Oct 6, 2013
    Sounds like a clanky, aggressive pick played p bass into some overdrive then chorus.
    Almost like if JJ burnel played in Joy Division.

    I found this post where someone lists the pedals they saw them using live. Namely a sansamp and Boss CE-3 DD-7 and BF-3. Stacking the flanger and chorus might be the key.

    ''I saw them [live last year] and if my memory serves me right, the bassist was using a Boss BF-3 Flanger, Boss CE-3 Chorus, and a Boss DD-7 Digital Delay, but I can't be for certain on the may have actually been a Space Echo.
    The raw tone is also very aggressive without effects, so a bit of overdrive from a SansAmp or a tube amp is helpful.''

    ''The tone on Far, he definitely has the chorus and flanger on simultaneously, which the flanger's feedback and depth up quite a bit. There may be some reverb, too. I'll assume he's using a Boss RE-5, but you could use an alternative-the Hall of Fame is nice!''
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  4. jking138


    Oct 6, 2013
    I was curious so I experimented with my Zoom B3.
    Flanger, hight depth and mix with low rate - into - Chorus, medium depth and medium rate - into - sansamp, eq, mix and gain at noon.
    Play hard with at pick near the bridge.
  5. Swimming Bird

    Swimming Bird

    Apr 18, 2006
    Wheaton MD
    +1 for actual info!

    Chorus + flanger sounds right by the clip, but the delay could be involved too. I'm 50/50 on the delay - cranking feedback on time-based effects with very short delay times produces all sorts of filter comb effects and can also squidge up the attack a bit, depending. Maybe a cleanish sansamp is involved for compression, but I'm a lot less confident about that by ear.
  6. jking138


    Oct 6, 2013
    That's what I thought but I can't hear any delay when he pauses during the riff.
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    The base clanky tone likely comes from a short slapback delay, that's how I'd do it at least. Then a stack of modulation, yeah flange and chorus ought do the trick, with pick of course.
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  8. Nunovsky


    Sep 4, 2004
    It sounds to me that he's using overdrive and some chorus. The overdrive has some midrange quality and clank. Maybe a tube screamer type.
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  9. Reedt2000

    Reedt2000 Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2017
    Central New Jersey
    I had the same thought. Heavy chorus an overdriven amp, and heavy pick strokes on a P bass.
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  10. jobu3

    jobu3 ¿Huevos?! Supporting Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    Mountain Top, PA
    Sounds like he’s using delay too. There’s a little more going on than what he’s playing.
  11. Reedt2000

    Reedt2000 Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2017
    Central New Jersey
    I don't know, those stops are awful tight for delay. It would have to be a super short slap back...
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  12. That is way more processed, but it made me think of the bass in this song. I like aggressive attack, which is why i own a Ric. But I experimented a couple of times with a rock maple-bodied P bass. The last time, I left the body the regular Fender thickness. This time, I sanded it down to like 70-75% of its' original thickness.(I noticed all my favorite tones came from thin maple basses). That P bass is now more pianolike than my Ric.

  13. SunByrne

    SunByrne opinionated intellectual Supporting Member

    Aug 29, 2019
    Pearland, TX
    I cannot let this comment go by without saying something... dude, that's hilarious.

    Hooky didn't often visit the E string, but even when he did, it's not quite like this... but for sure, similar territory here. The addition of a flanger sounds like a good explanation for the difference.
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  14. sonojono

    sonojono Supporting Member

    Feb 13, 2013
    Awesome band! Love the post punk genre for Bass!!!
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  15. erratick


    Mar 2, 2014
    I'll try to put together a tone like it later today. I like those little challenges. Sounds like overdrive/distortion and chorus/flange. Pick hard with a P bass and I bet it is pretty close.

    Somebody said this is his pedal board on reddit:
    the bassist was using a Boss BF-3 Flanger, Boss CE-3 Chorus, and a Boss DD-7 Digital Delay

    So anything like:

    Chorus (Polychorus or CE-3), Flanger (Electric Mistress, MXR 114, Boss BF-3), Delay (Flashback, DD-7, DL-4), Reverb (RE-5, HoF), maybe an overdrive (SansAmp) and even a bass big muff for the heavier parts.

  16. Ric5

    Ric5 Supporting Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    I disclose nothing
    Boost mids ... add distortion ... flange effect .... tweek settings
  17. Swimming Bird

    Swimming Bird

    Apr 18, 2006
    Wheaton MD
    Shorter. We're talking 10-30ms.
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  18. TonyP-

    TonyP- Excuse me but you have your I-IV-V in my II-V-I Gold Supporting Member

    Aug 21, 2003
    Boston Mass
    A-Designs Mike Lull GK Tsunami Cables GHS Strings RMI Basswitch Nordstrand Pickups Darkglass
    I’m just stoked to see a 80s new wave-ish thing being done again.

    It’s oddly refreshing in a sort of way.
  19. waynobass


    Feb 27, 2008
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  20. Yes, very hard attack with a plec, a cheap pumping compressor and a flanger that cuts all the low frequency content after the attack. Round wounds.
    He might mute a lot with his right hand. Later in the tune he gets more sustain, or at least some sustain at all. No synth pedal.
    I like it.
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