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new bass in the planning stages

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by john turner, Aug 20, 2002.


  1. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    well, i'm planning another conklin. i don't know how long this one will take to get started, since i really want to get that gold ritter seal 7 string and i probably will pick that one up first, but this has been ruminating for a while, so i'm going to put the plan together and see what bill thinks of it.

    7 string 28 fret fretted neck through
    b-eye maple board with block inlays
    wenge and purple heart neck, wenge body.
    dual exposed-pole duncan mm-style pickups, ala g&l.
    3 band aguilar preamp, or else u-retro preamp. not decided on that one yet.
    rmc piezo/synth
    melted top with buckeye burl/purple heart/buckeye burl. the middle purple heart will also extend into the fretboard, like this fretless...

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    ...with the matching headstock cap too.

    gold hardware

    ah, yes. #11, here i come. someday. :rolleyes: :D

    i'm actually thinking about trying to get bill to make this one a single cutaway. fodera shouldn't have all the fun, imo. :D
     
  2. smakbass

    smakbass Smakkin basses for 25 years..

    Aug 6, 2002
    Vancouver Canada
    Does a single cut away add to the weight though? Then again you play a 25lb double neck,,,,Sounds nice dont you have a Conklin on the way now?

    Rob
     
  3. SoComSurfing

    SoComSurfing Mercedes Benz Superdome. S 127. R 22. S 12-13.

    Feb 15, 2002
    Mobile, Al
    Someone stop him now, before it's too late! :D

    Buckeye Burl w/ Purpleheart...intersting color combinations. What sort of block inlays you considering? Some blue abalone might look good with that Birdseye, but red abalone might look better with the purpleheart. Will the inlays just be in the middle frets, or will they run into that purpleheart in the middle?
    Think McFly!:D

    Seriously, though, that will be one hell of an interesting looking bass! I would love to see it become a reality.
     
  4. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    yeah, my "wedding bass" - my wife's wedding present to me. it's a white w/gold sparkle hollowbody fretless, should be done around the end of august, beginning of september.

    i wonder if the single cut will make it a lot heavier, or what. i don't think bill's ever done a single cut before, so this should be really cool. i'll have to talk to him about it and see how he goes about it.
     
  5. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    that's a really good question. i'll probably have the inlays go the whole length of the neck, maybe have them change color too. i don't know - i might have a different wood for the flames other than purple heart - maybe wenge or walnut or something. as you can tell, this is still in the _early_ planning stages.

    yeah, me too. still got a lot of thinking going on for it, but the one thing that's certain is that it's going to have buckeye burl for the main top wood. there's been too many of those buckeye basses around lately for me to not have one too. :D
     
  6. neptoon

    neptoon

    Jul 25, 2000
    summerville, sc
    with a wenge body to boot...you're really a glutton for punishment, aren't you? hee hee sounds like it will be pretty sweet. i dig the tone from the all wenge le fay pangtons and mark gollihur's wenge fretless. sweet sound, indeedy...i'm sure bill will be pleased :D
     
  7. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    Picture of the world's rain forests when John quits buying basses -

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    John - Isn't there a support group or clinic for your "poor impulse control" ???

    Really, it sounds bitchen on paper! I'm glad you're looking at different body styles.
    That thing would practically make 2 basses for me.
     
  8. neptoon

    neptoon

    Jul 25, 2000
    summerville, sc

    3 or 4 for me...me being a two foot tall munchkin and all... :D :rolleyes:
     
  9. Nick man

    Nick man

    Apr 7, 2002
    Tampa Bay
    Hey John,

    It wounds like a killer idea!

    Im actually looking into having an all wenge doubleneck (fretted 5/ fretless5) built for me. The weight will be killer, but the sound will be murderous!

    So far Ive asked Darrin Huff and Hanewinckel, and have only recieved a reply from Darrin. I sent an email asking Hanewinckel about a half hour ago, and asked Darrin yesterday or the day before just to show how recently Ive been thinking about this.

    Have you ever played an all wenge bass?

    I once played an all wenge Warwick Thumb 5. All the notes rang so clear I was sudenly playing flamenco style with all kinds of chords that I would never try for fear of creating a muddled mess.

    Im also thinking of a double duncan MM style PU config since my current bass is a G&L L-2500, and its tone is beastly. Im actually not sure if I should go that route or the EMG route, but I would recommend you look into the EMGs as well since they are a good match for all that wenge.

    As far as the fingerboard block inlay thing goes, maybe you could try green abalone, and red abalone with the green abalone over the purpleheart sections and the red abalone over the wenge parts, following the curves of the wood.

    Keep the ideas flowing, and post anything else that comes to mind.

    Peace
    Nick
     
  10. bass_man86

    bass_man86

    Apr 29, 2002
    Virginia Beach
    For you guys interested in building your own bass check out Wartmoth.com, you can buy all the parts, finish the instrument anyway you like and end up with a killer bass.
    What I am personally trying now. I just licked up and OLP Stingray Five ($250). I have a Bartolini active pick up ($150) on order with a Status Graphite neck ($395) soon to follow. By the time I am done I will have five string Stingary that is better than the original for about $400.00 less. But you will have to settle for two less doing what I doing now! Let me know if you decide to try it too.:D
     
  11. bassmonkeee

    bassmonkeee Supporting Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Decatur, GA
    I know you can only get 6 channels per lightwave motherboard, so I was thinking you could have 2 motherboards-one for the bottom 3 strings, and one for the top 4. Oh, imagine the possibilities....

    You couldn't fit both boards on the bass (unless you figured out how to put one in the singlecutaway area), but since you already have a bass that has so much stuff in it that you have a frikkin' external battery pack (still cracks me up:D), you wouldn't mind having one, or both of the motherboards external, or rackmounted.

    It sounds like it'll be done about the same time as my singlecut lightwave fretless Curbow (maybe sooner--I'm looking to start sometime after the first of the year. You'll probably get started, oh....Friday;) )

    Sounds pretty cool. I like the block inlay idea. I'm glad I live in the same city as you--I actually get to play these monsters. :D Looking forward to you checking out my new 8 string, and really looking forward to playing the new hollowbody fretless.
     
  12. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    the fretted half of my doubleneck is a wenge body and a wenge and purple heart neck, with the exotic wood top and maple board.
     
  13. sounds like it'll fit in just fine with the rest of your sickly obscene examples of bass porn.
     
  14. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    :D actually, it's going to be a while before i get started on this one. hopefully not too long, but probably not in the next week or so. :D

    i'm not really much for the lightwave - sounds great, don't get me wrong, but the vibe just wasn't happening for me. i quess what i should say was that i wasn't blown away by the tone enough to consider the massive expense of two of them for a single 7. besides, the monolithic bridge sorta gets in my way a little.

    yeah, we have a lot of wacky basses floating around in atlanta. makes the get together so much fun. :D i'm definitely looking forward to checking out your 8.
     
  15. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    :D well, that certainly is the plan. :D
     
  16. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    I knew it wasn't just a dream!:eek:
     
  17. An external battery pack?! Which bass is that?

    edit: How long does it take Bill to build one of your basses? Not counting the planning part.
     
  18. Nick man

    Nick man

    Apr 7, 2002
    Tampa Bay
    I would edit it, but its too stupid and too late to cover up.

    Peace
    Nick
     
  19. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    well, depends on how complicated it is. it's taken anywhere from less than 5 months (for the doubleneck) to around 2 years (for the 8 string fretted). par is about 9 months.