New bassist looking to snob up my rig! :D

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Verlathor, Jul 6, 2013.

  1. Verlathor


    May 12, 2013
    So, I'm fairly new to playing bass and while I love my amp there are a few things I want to be able to add and I guess this means I will require snobboxes.

    In case you didn't notice I'm not usually a fan of putting lots of pedals in front of a good amp, but I feel like a few might help me. The kind of things I'm looking for are:

    -Anything else that might be useful for what I play.

    I play in a metal band, we do thrashy, but melodic stuff and I've tried a few of my guitar pedals and effects to try and get a sound I like, but obviously they're made for the guitar and have so far fallen short.

    In the overdrive I'm looking for something that can give me a nice growly drive but won't lose top end definition so that I can play detuned to C without sounding farty. I think something with a mix knob as well as a drive, level and tone might be just the ticket, but I'm honestly not sure what to look at. Any suggestions would be appreciated, I'm not particularly bothered about price (though I don't want to be spending hundreds and hundreds unless something really is THAT good.)

    In terms of the compression and limiting I need something that will give me great sustain to keep the notes fat all the way through and not dying, and also to help the consistency of my sound getting through without popping, pumping and over-squashing the sound.

    As for anything else, I'm willing to have a listen to anything that has gotten good results in metal or hard rock for you guys, or even other genres.

    So yes...Suggestions? I ask all this because I have literally no idea where to start when it comes to pedals other than things like Boss.

    Cheers! X)
  2. xkalenx


    Mar 4, 2008
    I play in a thrashy hardcore band (standard, sometimes drop D) and have gotten a great sound from my Tech 21 BDDI (Jazz or P -> BDDI -> SVT3 Pro -> Ampeg 610). It has drive, blend, bass, treble, level and presence controls, so that may be partially what you are looking for. I have also heard good things about the MXR M-80 pedal. I wasn't crazy about the overdrive sound from it though, and chose the BDDI instead. I have heard good things about both, so try them out if you can and see which one you like the best.
  3. Dave W

    Dave W Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    Westchester, NY
    I don't think that's going to go over very well if you want "real" responses.

    If you want a gear snob rig, let's take a step back. What kind of bass and amp are you playing?
  4. Floyd Eye

    Floyd Eye Inactive

    Feb 21, 2010
    St. Louis
    Pedals are "Snobby"?

    Don't over think it. TAFM, TLC, TU3.
  5. If you've got guitar pedals laying about you might like to try the highpass looping thing to leave the low end intact. Rolls mini crossover plus a blender.
  6. Jason Hall

    Jason Hall

    Jun 21, 2012
    Fort Wayne, IN
    As I'm sure you'll find looking at threads, there's hundreds of dirt boxes based on a handful of designs. Maybe a Darkglass B3k? Alex Webster likes his...

    As for compression and limiting, keep in mind adding dirt adds compression so it may or may not be necessary. If you're looking for an always on od/fuzz/distortion it'll probably offer enough compression and sustain.

    Edit: Here's a video and rig rundown, check out his bass sound:
  7. atomicdog


    Jun 18, 2011
    Looper. Darkglass. ThunderTone.
  8. king_biscuit


    May 21, 2006
    :confused: I don't get that either.
  9. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    I thought the pedal users were the lowest bottomfeeders in the bass evolution ladder. At least that's what all the bass/amp snobs tell us.
  10. Verlathor


    May 12, 2013
    I was only joking about pedals being snobby, but it got some attention! So mission accomplished. Thanks for the replies so far.

    Derp. I'm playing a fender p-bass (I think it's Mexican, not that that should make much odds) into an Ashdown MAG600 into an Ampeg 410hlf. It might be worth noting that I usually play pick bass as opposed to fingerstyle, too.
  11. Gadgetjunky


    Aug 9, 2011
    People here are always helpful, no need for theatrics. I bet you would have gotten twice as many post without it.

    And I agree, sounds like you could use a B3k
  12. bludog


    Apr 3, 2012
    Brooklyn 11217
    Ha! So true... we're a humble bunch compared to the Bass and Amp [DEL]snobs[/DEL] dudes. :bag:
  13. HunterBurgan4Me


    Mar 6, 2010
    Almost everyone around here (including me) likes the darkglass B3K as a OD pedal in any genre.

    "Anything else that might be useful for what I play."

    it's hard to say, what's useful for me may not be useful for someone else.

    For example I have two boosts on my board, one after my dirt pedals and one before, this way I can add gain to an OD or volume boost. My guitarist has no boosts on his board because he doesn't like tapdancing as much as I do.
  14. Jason Hall

    Jason Hall

    Jun 21, 2012
    Fort Wayne, IN
    Yeah for the anything else useful part. get effects that make you happy. Go try some out at a store and ask yourself "will I actually ever get to use this in my band?". For thrash, the only other effects I would recommend are a decent fuzz that compliments your overdrive (so you can bash people in the face when you want to) and a wah. I haven't tried one but the demos for the TAFM sound awesome and I'm sure would compliment the b3k.

    Oh, and for the wah, if you want something a little more "snobby", I'm going to be ordering a wah from modest mike. He sells custom pedals on ebay and has a store. I sent him a message and he can take a regular crybaby, fill it full of ridiculous mods and either put a permanent tone cap in it to switch it to a bass crybaby tone or make a switch to go from bass crybaby to regular tone. He doesn't offer it on his site because there's not a lot of call for it but he says he's made them for bassists that dug it. His prices aren't too bad and he'll sell you one for around $150. Here's his website if you want to check it out:!wah-pedals

    Other than that, make sure you have a tuner too!
  15. Verlathor


    May 12, 2013
    Hm, I'm going to regret my snob joke before long, aren't I?

    Ah, yes! A tuner, that's something I forgot, are there any good dedicated bass tuners? I seem to run into problems with most bog standard tuners on the thick C string. I'm not sure if I've just got something set up wrong on my bass or whether tuners are just inherently bad at picking up low frequencies.

    I'm definitely liking the sound of the B3K, Alex Webster's tone is pretty much exactly what I'm looking for, nice and twangy and sharp but with some growl and thump. The Team Awesome Fuzz Machine is pretty cool as well, but maybe a bit too fuzzy for my liking.

    And I know this might seem like a newb request, but with the pedal recommendations can you act as though I'm an idiot and explain what these things do, as well as the full name. Just a list of abbreviations means nothing to me. >_<;
  16. The abbreviations are applied to longwinded pedal names. The good news is they get picked up by the site search engine when more than 4 letters.

    My pitchblack struggles a little with a low B but the 12th fret open harmonic B is picked up fine. If your 12th fret open harmonic is different to 12th fretted you need to intonate the bridge.
  17. Bassmike62

    Bassmike62 Punch'n Ooomph Supporting Member

  18. Floyd Eye

    Floyd Eye Inactive

    Feb 21, 2010
    St. Louis
    Most pedal tuners are going to have problems with low C. You have to use the 12th fret harmonic. I can't say I have tried them all, so maybe some Pitchblack users and others will chime in here. I can tell you that the TU3 doesn't do low Db without using the harmonic. At least in bass mode.

    About the TAFM: I wouldn't count it out as being too fuzzy without trying it out. It is very tweakable and can be easily dialed anywhere from mild to brutal once you understand how it works. That said, there are many other great pedals too. B:Assmaster, Pickle Pie B, Oxide, the list goes on and on and on.
  19. Swift713

    Swift713 Supporting Member

    Dec 4, 2006
    Florence, Ma
    My Pitchblack is fine with my b string.
  20. Jason Hall

    Jason Hall

    Jun 21, 2012
    Fort Wayne, IN
    For the tuner for what you're turning to I'd use a sonic research turbo tuner. No question. And yes, your intonation and string tension can make a difference on how well your tuner tracks. If you hit your string hard and it knocks out of tune then it's not going to track right.