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New cabs

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by I.'.I.'.Nakoa, Sep 9, 2001.


  1. I.'.I.'.Nakoa

    I.'.I.'.Nakoa Guest

    Aug 10, 2000
    Fort Worth.
    hey, when i buy new cabs, im going the peavey route, i figure, since i have always had something peavey, and its always been just as goiod as the other , and i really really like the cabs, then that is what i will get. Im wanting to buy 2 of the 410's(new). but , i wont be buying a new amp for a while, so ill be using a hartke ha 3500, would this amp not be enough to properly power these cabs.. or should it be fine, till i buy the ha7000? thanks.
     
  2. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    350 watts should suffice for eight 10"'s. :)

    It'll be louder than 350 watts in four 10"'s.
     
  3. I.'.I.'.Nakoa

    I.'.I.'.Nakoa Guest

    Aug 10, 2000
    Fort Worth.
    alright, cool. another peavey user! as soon as i get my job( hopefully this week), im gonna start putting alot back, for new cabs, then a spector nscr5fm in purple. i really want peavey 410's , they sound better to me, than ampeg, swr, eden, hartke, trace elliot, fender... hows the sterling?
     
  4. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania

    Peavey 4x10's are great. I run a Peavey 410TXF, and a Peavey 115BXBW, check out the 115BXBW with your 4x10. The Peavey ones add a lot of punch to your sound.

    P.S. My Sterling's brilliant sounding, feeling, and looking! Thanks for asking. :)
     
  5. I'll just add in with some technical mumbo-jumbo, simply cause its fun to learn!

    The reason why 8 10" speakers will sound louder than 4 10" speakers is because there is more speaker surface. Keep this in mind, that to increase volume, you dont always have to have more watts. Some time's it'd be easyer to add speakers, than it would be to buy a new head.

    You're getting a Spector NSCR5FM... in PURPLE? to each his own i guess... somthing about how that natural wiht flamed maple... makes me all warm inside... but then you dye the wood... purple? To each his own... to each his own...
     
  6. I.'.I.'.Nakoa

    I.'.I.'.Nakoa Guest

    Aug 10, 2000
    Fort Worth.
    hey , thanks for the replies, im, about to call the place i applied at, to see if i get an interview or not. hopefulyl i will, because iwant to get the cabs.

    i played a cklear purple one , at gc, it was the only purple i ahve ever seen that was appealing, but, if i cant get one in the same, i want blue or natural :)

    ce, you can run, 4 ohm cabs off the firebass 700 , right?
     
  7. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    In intentionally run two 4 ohm cabs into my firebass, to get the most output from it...

    It runs 275 watts @ 8 ohms, 475 watts @ 4 ohms, and 700 watts @ 2 ohms.

    If you'd like to see a picture of my setup (and my amp), go here: www.geocities.com/cvinfestedcv/Sterling-Amp

    :)
     
  8. I.'.I.'.Nakoa

    I.'.I.'.Nakoa Guest

    Aug 10, 2000
    Fort Worth.
    thats BAD ASS man, sweet bass too. can you get a good scooped tone, on the firebass ??
     
  9. I.'.I.'.Nakoa

    I.'.I.'.Nakoa Guest

    Aug 10, 2000
    Fort Worth.
    oops, that was supposed to 4, 8 ohm, cabs. my bad
     
  10. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania

    Yeah, my EQ settings are scooped mids on my amp. :)

    And thanks... :)


    You mean four 8 ohm cabs? I'm sure you could do that if you plug two of them into the parallel out's in the head, and then go in series.

    It should bring you to two ohms...

    I'm not a tech-head, so I'm not sure about the series/parallel thing in detail and all... but it should bring you to 2 ohms, doing that...

    I don't see why you would though, but go for it, if it's what you want to do. :)
     
  11. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador
    4 Cabs that are 8ohms ,wired FULLY Parallel give you 2 Ohms.

    No series wiring here, just parallel.
     
  12. Just to back up louis, and educate everyone (learning is fun!)...

    Two 8 ohms cabs in parallel would come out to 4 ohms, two sets of 8ohm (4 8 ohm cabs)cabs in parallel would come out to 2 ohms.

    Two 8 ohm cabs wired parallel (4 ohms), matched with two 8 ohm cabs wired in series (16 ohms) would come out to 8 ohms (i'm not positive of the totall amount, but i'm pretty sure... I know its not gonna be 2ohms, or 4. )
     
  13. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador
    Say wut?
    What do you mean with Matched?

    If you take a 4 ohm Set with a 16 Ohm Set in parallel you will get this:
    1/ 1/4 +1/16 = about 2.56 Ohms.

    Or a 4 Ohm with an 8Ohm = 2.67

    Lets look at the formula.
    2 4ohm Cabs In parallel:
    1/ 1/4 +1/4 = 2/4 ->
    1/2/4 = 4/2 = 2 Ohms.
     
  14. I have no clue... i'm no electrical engeneer, all i know is that when you put two 8 ohm cabs wired in parallel it comes out with 4 ohms. When you put two 4 ohm cabs in parallel it comes out with 2 ohms. If you put a 4 ohm wiht a 8 in parallel it becomes 2.67. I know that if you wire 2 8 ohm cabs in series, it comes out to 16 ohms. I have no clue with the formulas what a 16 with a 4 in parallel would come out to be, or a 16 and 4 in series (which wouldnt be advisable due to different ohmage (is that a word) to different cabs, one would overpower the other.).

    When i said matched, i should have stated wired in parallel or series, because that would make a difference (would it work to wire it in series?). I stay away from series wiring mixed wiht parallel cause too many places for me to make a mistake and whatnot.
     
  15. Hey crawling eye, you got the rig that i want. I got the firebass head and 410 cab, now all i gotta do is convince my wife that i need a 115 cab also. But gotta wait a few months yet for the bread.
    eddie:D
     
  16. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    Actually, I believe you're wrong. When you have an 8 ohm and a 4 ohm cabinet wired in parallel, it comes out to 4 ohms. In parallel, it always takes the smallest figure, if there are two different cabinet with two different ohms ratings. As far as I've known atleast.

    All possible combination's in parallel are as follows:

    8 ohm + 2 ohm = 2 ohm
    2 ohm + 4 ohm = 2 ohm
    4 ohm + 4 ohm = 4 ohm
    8 ohm + 4 ohm = 4 ohm
    8 ohm + 8 ohm = 8 ohm
    4 ohm + 4 ohm = 4 ohm
    2 ohm + 2 ohm = 2 ohm

    And so on... The thing I'm not quite sure about is series. I've never used any cabs in series before...




    To basseddie,
    Just save up, I spent aprox. $1250, on my amp...
    Which too bad at all. I've tried many other heads, combos, and cabinet's also... I always come back to mine. :)
     
  17. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador
    WRONG
    Please USE the Formula ok?
    it is 1 / 1/X + 1/Y ... etc .
    For example: 8 and 2 would be
    1/ 1/8 + 1/2 = 1.33 Ohms.
    And so on.

    Specially 4ohm + 4ohm.. HOW CAN YOU SAY IT IS 4OHMS!!! It is 2 OHMS!!
     
  18. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    Oh my god, I'm a moron!

    I apologize. I don't know how I made that mistake, I run my amp using two 4 ohm cabs, and I KNOW that it comes out to 2 ohms. I'm sorry if I confused anyone.
     
  19. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador
    Hehehe
    :D
    Dont worry, I talk sh** sometimes too.
     
  20. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador
    I forgot..
    About the Series Wiring..
    You just have to add the Impedances..
    4+8 , 8+8 , etc etc