So I'm starting a new gig next week, doing 90's Top 40 tunes. Lots of pop-punk, some rock, some R&B, a little hip hop. BL prefers Pbasses, as do I. Problem is, my main bass, my only working P, is seriously vintage-flavored. Nordstrand NP4's, mellow nickel rounds. Plays and sounds like a million bucks, but sounds wrong for this gig. Here's the dilemma: I have a Pbass with a fretless neck that needs a LOT of help (the neck, not the body) I could buy a new neck, new pickup (Something hotter and more modern than the NP4), it'd need new strings and a setup, yadda yadda. Or I could buy a decently cheap bass (Yamaha BB, or Squier, or somesuch) for the price of the new neck, but it'd likely still need new strings and a setup. Maybe new pickups, depending. I can take the pickups out of the equation because a friend of mine has a couple pairs I've been wanting to try out. So it's just the bass or the neck, plus strings and setup. And we're balling on a budget, so whichever option will cost less gets the go-ahead. Any suggestions?
1. Put rounds on your existing Precision. 2. Squier P-bass, VM or similar (not Affinity). Yes, you will need new strings and likely a setup if you can't do that yourself. You won't need new pickups, the stock ones are good for what you're going to be doing. Getting your existing bass with the fretless neck up to speed will cost more than buying a used Squier.
^^^^ Agreed. Rounds, a pedal to add some grit and maybe a compressor. Maybe a sansamp to get an SVT tone?
Yamaha BB used all day long. Well made basses. Sound great. Take a beating. And this is coming from a guy who owns several Fender P basses. Also, what OTHER basses do you have? Your band leader might be a bit of a weirdo for insisting on a P bass..... especially being that you are covering so many genres and tones. And, again, this is coming from a big P bass fan.
I highly recommend the VM's. Bought a fretless VM Precision last year. Plays and sounds great. Don't discount the PU's till you've played a few gigs with them. All the groups I play with tell me it sounds great. $299 at GC.
Although I would personally pick up a Squier, thinking about it, you would still have a bass with a neck that needs attention. If you want a P, I would say look for a neck (used can be a good option), but if you want a different flavours, then I would look for a Squier or an Ibanez. (Edit: or a Yamaha, which always seem to be good value for money).
I should clarify: I have rounds on my existing P. I LOVE my existing P as is. It’s perfect for literally everything I do, between recording, church, pickup gigs, and my regular gigs, EXCEPT it’s not right for this gig. Not enough treble bite. Needs a more modern sound. So I should take a bass perfect for 80% of all my work and alter to make it acceptable for only 20%? Hence, either new neck or new bass altogether. And I don’t have a pedalboard. No boards allowed. Just straight to house via DI. Already had that conversation with BL: “The old bassist didn’t need a pedalboard, so why do you?” So i’m starting here. New bass, which needs strings, and setup; Or new neck, for a bass that already needs strings and a setup. Plus, it gets one of my herd back into use, instead of collecting dust, which is nice.
Modern 5string Jazz, Jazz with flats, and the fretless. I’m looking into the BB’s, as they also have a bit different sound than a standard P, maybe more bitey?
I know this isn't a popular opinion here, but the audience won't care. The P you already own and love will sound fine out front. See if the gig works out before you start spending money. If the BL isn't OK with that, I'd move on.
Well, this gig may not last that long. Buuuuutttt... 1. The money’s really good. 2. He might change his mind after a bit, as he comes to trust me. 3. The company that this is under does a lot more than just this band, and it’s a great way to get my foot in the door. Business is business, and this is a business. Gotta play by the rules.
I completely agree. The audience won’t care. But I do, and i’d LOVE to use my #1 for this, but the BL cares as well, and (rightly so) wants a bass closer to the appropriate tone for this gig. Again, my main axe is SUPER vintagey, and it’s not working for this gig.
Found this neck: Squier Classic Vibe '60s Precision Bass Neck Or this bass: Yamaha BB234RR 2017 Raspberry Red The bass is ~$80 more, needs new strings and a setup. Methinks the neck might be the better way to go?
Absolutely! Get a new neck. You literally CANNOT go wrong with Warmoth necks, pick every option you want, or buy the "In Stock" area. I was just drooling this week over a sweet P Bass neck with Vintage Tint...and I don't even have a body for it go on! All my basses are 100% Warmoth at this point b/c I love their stuff SO much!
If you're interested, I have a huge maple P-bass neck (aftermarket - likely AllParts) I'm not using, and a MIM J Bass rosewood neck, that is larger than a J and smaller than a P (Fender factory made). PM me, if interested.
I concur this might be a good idea. Being a masochist myself, I recommend Roto 66 Swing Jazz's. The breakfast of champions...
I wouldn't touch a thing on your p-bass. That sounds amazing and I'm fairly superstitious about altering anything that could impact the magic. What you could consider would be a used Ibanez 5-string with dual humbuckers. When I think 90's bass to cover all of those, Ibanez comes to mind, especially with active pups.