New Hollywood, 1970s film movement

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  1. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    Any thoughts on the emergence of this film style in the 1970s?

    I'm watching Chinatown right now on TCM and the host discussed it during the introduction to the film.
     
  2. Picton

    Picton

    Aug 16, 2017
    Reading, MA
    Without being conversant with the technical or creative ins and outs of New Hollywood (other than a college course I took about Robert Altman almost 25 years ago), here’s what I’ll say:

    I’ve seen a few of those ‘70s movies and I didn’t enjoy a single one of them.
     
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  3. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    I once heard that the Godfather 2 was considered part of it, as opposed to the original.
     
  4. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    According to Wikipedia, Raiders of the Lost Ark is considered one of the last. Which doesn't make sense considering how corny that movie is.
     
  5. Picton

    Picton

    Aug 16, 2017
    Reading, MA
    Opinions vary.

    I think of Deliverance, Deer Hunter, Bonnie and Clyde, Dog Day Afternoon, Taxi Driver, Heaven's Gate... stuff like that. Plus the entire output of Robert Altman. It was about a style of writing, editing, and camera movement.

    Spielberg is lumped in with some of those directors, but he was smart enough to realize the value of newer VFX technologies. That makes his movies fundamentally different. Personally, I think the Star Wars/Rocky strand separated itself from New Hollywood and, ultimately, killed it.
     
  6. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    The first Superman was another. Where he flies in at the end to restore the top of the White House and greets the president. That couldn't have been done in a major film a year or two before that.
     
  7. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    The huge popularity of Star Wars and Rocky are proof that people always want to see John Wayne or other heroes riding off into the sunset.
     
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  8. FilterFunk

    FilterFunk Everything is on the ONE! Supporting Member

    Mar 31, 2010
    I think that happened in "Superman II."
     
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  9. Correlli

    Correlli

    Apr 2, 2004
    Wellington, NZ
    I watched The Exorcist and Jaws the other day and sort of enjoyed them. I liked the soft aesthetics of the cinematography. But when it came to SFX, I’m too used to CGI now. Few others I like, Planet of the Apes, Logan’s Run, Enter the Dragon, Dirty Harry, Close Encounters, Convoy, Midnight Express, Live and Let Die, Star Trek.
     
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  10. IDK...that's one of my favourite American movies ever, but it's also Polanski and he has a tendency of following his own instinct more than anything else. I'd be hard pressed to put in in the same catalogue with some of the other movies that wikipedia lists as belonging to the aforementioned movement, including the ones that I truly like (The Dirty Dozen, Cool Hand Luke, The Wild Bunch...)

    My $0.02 only...
     
  11. viribus

    viribus Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 1, 2011
    Pacific Northwest
    I never actually learned to play very well
    Chinatown is a great movie regardless of how it’s categorized.
     
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  12. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    Early movies followed blocking techniques of stage shows. Directors finally realized it was a different medium.
     
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  13. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    Okay, but this new movement supposedly ended by the early 1980s. I don't think they went back to the old style.
     
  14. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    It was a first step moving on from theater. After that, special effects helped take
    it to another level. Things tend to move in stages. Someone does something that works, and others play copycat.
     
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  15. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    I see. But I guess you were focusing more on the cinematic techniques, which was not the only thing.
     
  16. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    Not just techniques. Everything in Hollywood is copycat. Just like we had an era of westerns/spaghetti westerns, then sci Fi, then cop movies, then super hero moves, then rampant sequels, etc.
     
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  17. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    I am still curious what baby boomers thought about this era, especially if they discovered movies before the late 1960s.

    I still love the movies of this era, and I have had trouble relating to the high tech action film, and the fantasy superhero genre.

    I have always preferred realism, and that was the main characteristic of this era, from my perspective.
     
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  18. Totally agree.

    The acting was sometimes bad but at least the car chases were real...
     
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  19. bolophonic

    bolophonic

    Dec 10, 2009
    Durham, NC
    I made it a point to read about the various filmmaking scenes in the 60’s and 70’s and 80’s. I much prefer that era of film.
     
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  20. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    I think it's funny how even the low budget pulp films of the era also probably reflected it.