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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Kijuer, Jun 8, 2020.
Well since there is already a Carbine inspired amp (D800+), a Walkabout inspired amp (WD800) and a Bass 400 inspired amp (TT800) I figure the next logical progression could be a Subway PD800.
A lunchbox designed amp inspired by the Prodigy with a Class D power section and a tube pre. Oh yeah, can't forget about the blue LED lighting up the interior of the amp. Just a thought.
TT800 Incoming from Bass Central......going up against my WD800.
The D-800/800+ have similarities to some of the Carbine voicings but not the "rip your head off aggressive" ones.
I describe the SW's compared to the Carbines as more sophisticated/polite sounding especially up top while still being able to bring some attitude when you want to rock. IMO the biggest similarities are quickness/tightness of the notes, a clean/crisp edge to the notes, and good note to note articulation that stays distinct in a busy mix.
That would be something.
While we are imagineering….
A Boogie Channel preamp/DI with 9V jacks to go on a pedal board would be a fairly instantaneous “buy” decision for me.
I always thought a Walkabout Scout update could be popular. A Subway 112 cab adapted with a built in D800 could be really light weight, grab and go combo, and easily extended with the other Subway cabs. A real gateway drug to the rest of the Mesa goodness.
We looked at this, but in order to support 400 watts RMS into 8 ohms and meet player expectations, it would have to be as large as the Subway 112 with the same driver and the cost would likely be about the same as the head plus cabinet. Based on comments here on TB, that would be too expensive for most players (ie. a $1600 112 combo, a $2000 210 combo), and it would also take away from some of the mix and match opportunities that many players find appealing.
This doesn't mean that we wouldn't consider a smaller combo, but that's for a future discussion.
I love big power for clean headroom as much as the next guy, but I don't ever see the need to have more than 800 watts RMS. If I need more stage volume I would prefer pro side fills or just more bass cabinets / drivers.
Some like their Camaros with 2.0-liter turbo 4s. Others prefer 6.2-liter supercharged V8s. Glad you're happy with current offerings. Me? Happy just dreamin' of the WCD-1200
You're going to need a bigger speaker cabinet!
You only know what you know!
I have been an Ampeg fan and still own an SVT, two Ampeg tube rackmount pre amps (now with a CA6 power amp). I also like the SWR SM series, Ashdown ABM, and a GK MBF800. All great pro amps that can play loud, clear, and warm.
Had a Mesa WA for many years but not enough clean power for all gigs.
Thanks to my pal Tim @bonin in the boneyard for such a fair deal on a TT800, I now understand why there have been 100's of thousands of raving posts about the Subway series. This is by far the best featherweight amp I've ever played.
After about 1 1/2 hours of testing (the Ampeg selector switch really helps with this), it is clear that the TT800 is at the top of the list and tied with the SVT-CL (which is far too heavy for my 63 year old back to move to bar gigs). I REALLY like the Boogie channel for a full tube amp feel and having the Subway channel will be super helpful for fine tone sculpting and rooms with problems.
Why haven't we had bass amps with two discrete voices before this?
Highly recommended and after a quick test, it is really clear why they are so expensive. They are worth it!
Really glad you decided to go for it Jim...as you know, I was pretty sure you were going like it.
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