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New! Pirastro Perpetual Double Bass strings

Discussion in 'Strings [DB]' started by luisraulmunoz, Jun 6, 2019.

  1. Hi, I was reading lemurs music's Instagram feed from isb convention and the received a new set from Pirastro called perpetual. I believe they are synthetic but there's not much info other than "easy bow response, medium tension and great pizz, punchy with sustain"

    Anyone has more info?

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  2. Miles Brown

    Miles Brown

    Jun 6, 2019
    Yes! Yesterday I tried five basses at the ISB convention that were outfitted with these strings. They are similar to Spirocores, but they are kinder to the bow. Straight out of the package, they were very loud and growly, but still had a nice, though bright, arco sound. They really did remind me of Spiros. Very punchy, especially on the E string.

    Ed from Pirastro said they are patterned after the Perpetual cello string, and a couple of folks said they are Pirastro’s attempt to reboot the “Jazzer” series.

    The G string was a little thin and nasally around third position, but this may even out as the strings settle in. They’re so new, that only time will tell! I’m pretty sure they’re not commercially available yet, but I plan to give them a shot when they are.
  3. Sam Dingle

    Sam Dingle Supporting Member

    Aug 16, 2011
    Nooooope Noooooope NOOOOOOOOPE.
  4. dhergert

    dhergert Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 17, 2018
    Blue Zone, California
    New strings are so much fun!!!
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  5. Sam Dingle

    Sam Dingle Supporting Member

    Aug 16, 2011
    I won’t try them. I resisted the Polychromes I can resist this too...
  6. I sent an email to Pirastro about this! :)
  7. dhergert

    dhergert Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 17, 2018
    Blue Zone, California
    Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.
  8. Thanks for the update! So I take it they are not synthetic core and geared towards pizz/hybrid jazz player right?
    Enjoy the convention!
  9. Miles Brown

    Miles Brown

    Jun 6, 2019
    Yes. Steel core, not synthetic. It was a blast!
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  10. Michael Drost

    Michael Drost Supporting Member

    Oct 16, 2009
    Grand Haven, MI
    I played a bass or two with the mystery yellow silk windings as well. Nice strings for pizz. Did not have a bow handy though.
  11. Just got a reply from Pirastro, and have the permission to quote the reply here:
  12. birgebass


    Nov 7, 2011
    Ugh. Not again.
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  13. Fran Diaz

    Fran Diaz

    Mar 28, 2002
    Santander, Spain
    YELLOW silks is reason enough not to buy them...well, I might need to see that silk...might be a cool gold-yellow and that'd be reason enough to try them.
  14. TroyK

    TroyK Moderator Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2003
    Seattle, WA
    I'm ... interested.

    Yellow silks don't bother me. Silk color is always very low on my list of string anxt. I used Permanents for a while, which also have yellow silks. If I like how they play and feel, then even if I hated the color, I would get over it.
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2019
  15. unbrokenchain

    unbrokenchain Supporting Member

    Jun 8, 2011
    Black Mountain, NC
    Unbrokenchain likes what he hears
  16. HCF

    HCF Of course, YMMV Supporting Member

    Nov 30, 2008

    Thank you , that's all.
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  17. TroyK

    TroyK Moderator Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2003
    Seattle, WA
    "They are similar to Spirocores, but they are kinder to the bow"

    is like "my bass only louder", a phrase that has lost all meaning. Never turns out to be true and I'm convinced that a) Spirocores and are not as bad to bow as people say and b) is not really what people want anyway.

    My bass falls in between optimal Spirocore tensions or I would use them and sometimes I still do, but I prefer Pirastro Jazzers (on my bass). I like the E/A strings better than the D and don't like the G at all (again, on my bass). Synthetic core strings have all disappointed me. The idea of a new Pirastro rope core string as described is exciting to me. We'll see.
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  18. paulunger

    paulunger Supporting Member

    Sep 1, 2002
    Fort Worth, Texas
    I tried these strings at the convention. The Pirastro rep said they didn't want to describe these as jazz strings because they didn't want to limit their market. He gave the example that when they put the word "slaps" on the Evah Pirazzi Slaps, they lost a lot of money because a lot of players dismissed them as a slap only string.
    To me they sounded very close to a Spirocore. Tension felt lower, they had a looser feel. Definitely not a bow friendly string. I wouldn't consider them a good hybrid string unless you consider Spirocore hybrid.
  19. geoffbassist

    geoffbassist UK Double Bassist Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jul 17, 2006
    Founder - Discover Double Bass
    I wish I had tried these out at the convention. I think a new jazz friendly Pirastro set with a steel core is a welcome addition to their range. I’m certainly looking forward to trying them out.
  20. If these work well for some people and their basses that's awesome! But I'm gonna keep to my beloved Spirocores.
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