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New Rack Setup, need some help

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by SirDuke, Feb 8, 2013.

  1. SirDuke


    Feb 8, 2013
    New York
    So ive been playing out of a Hartke LH1000 for about 2 years now, and i finally got the bucks saved up to buy a few extras. I went with a Tech 21 Sansamp preamp and a behringer racktuner. Altho i have been playin for a while now I am beginning to realize that im very nooby when it comes to this stuff... idk what i should plug into what, if i should be using speaker cables, if i made a mistake in what i got.. please somebody HELP!

    Hartke LH1000
    Tech 21 Sansamp RBI Rackmount Bass Tube Amp Emulator
    Behringer BTR2000 Racktuner
  2. Speaker cable goes from the power amp out to the speaker. That's the only place you use it in a rack setup.
  3. RickenBoogie


    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    I understand the tuner, but why did you buy the RBI? It's a preamp, and can be used several ways, but your LH1000 already has it's own preamp.
  4. SirDuke


    Feb 8, 2013
    New York
    I like the power i get from the hartke but im a huge fan of the lack of depth with the tone i can get. It sounds rly good but id like to be able to shape it a little better, and ive heard a lot of good things about the rbi
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  5. coyote1


    Mar 23, 2012
    Because the sansamp has a specific character that the Hartke does not.
  6. blastbear100


    Feb 5, 2013
    Here's what I do with my markbass/sansamp setup:

    from amp > effects loop send into sansamp rear input > sansamp output into effects loop return

    Doing that, I just plug straight into the markbass, and when both are on, both color the tone and I shape my sound using each one. Hope this helps!
  7. SirDuke


    Feb 8, 2013
    New York
    That helps a bunch! Thanks! Now can i get the tuner in there somewhere? Or do i have to plug into it each time
  8. Dave W

    Dave W Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    White Plains
    A lot of folks who purchase racks seem to buy things just because they see it in someone else's rack, not actually knowing if they need it or not. Compressors and Sonic Maximizers seem to be #1 on that list. Because racks are what the "pros" use.

    You can plug straight into the tuner, then have the tuner out go into the RBI.
  9. SirDuke


    Feb 8, 2013
    New York
    So tuner out > rbi in, rbi out > lh1000 effects return?
  10. DigitalMan

    DigitalMan Owner of seven basses - eligible for 44 TB Clubs Supporting Member

    Nov 30, 2011
    Another option is > RBI in / RBI out > lh1000 effects return. Then also send the RBI uneffected out to tuner in. That takes the tuner out of the signal path.
  11. That turns your lh1000 into a power amp. You might like to put the rbi on a footswitch to use it like an effect pedal. Or simply

    bass /rbi / input of lh1000/ speakers
    Tuner out / tuner input.
  12. SirDuke


    Feb 8, 2013
    New York
    Thanks for the help guys, it works great
    pic for your enjoyment
  13. spaz21387


    Feb 25, 2008
    Portland oregon
    I would go bass> tuner> sansamp> to hartke input but thats just me...
  14. How did you hook it up then?
  15. SirDuke


    Feb 8, 2013
    New York
    I ended up goin with >rbi / rbi sansamp > lh1000 effects return > cab and rbi unaffected > tuner. She sounds awesome and totally worth every penny. Cant wait to use it on stage this weekend.
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  16. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Gold Supporting Member

    Aug 25, 2007
    Toronto Ontario Canada
    IMO a rack tuner is a waste of time. If you have a decent, stable bass you use a tuner once a night. A good hand held will do that quite ably at a fraction of the cost. I have two Korg units neither of which are in my racks.
  17. DigitalMan

    DigitalMan Owner of seven basses - eligible for 44 TB Clubs Supporting Member

    Nov 30, 2011
    Racks are for people who don't like duffel bags or milk crates. Either it's your thing or its not.

    A nice stable bass still has tuning pegs at the end of a headstock. In a perfect world they don't get bumped during the course of the evening.

    Behringer notwithstanding, a rack tuner can potentially be more accurate than a handheld (e.g Peterson) and when it's in the rack it's always on and available.

    With racks, it's about what's not in the rack that counts. Bass, strap, cable, go.
  18. JimiLL

    JimiLL Supporting Member

    Jan 26, 2009
    Hunt. Co., New Jersey
    Rack tuners are a waste until you have to retune your bass for another song :rolleyes:
  19. acousticzone


    Feb 9, 2011
    I use my RBI and Hartke like this: Bass to RBI, then to front of Hartke,hartke effects loop to (whatever, tuner in your case, graph for me) ..Hartke to speakers. I have tried going from RBI to effects return,and it is more quiet, but I get better highs and more power through the front of Hartke head. (just make sure your RBI is down low enough so you don't overdrive front of Hartke head) . All in all its a great combination because you can boost or cut bass-mid-treb
    and you have "drive" knob on RBI which can be a nice feature.
  20. Dave W

    Dave W Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    White Plains
    There are floor based pedals that work the same way. I know the Peterson SS2 can do it.