New Rig day!: Hartke TX600 and Two Hydrive 112s + Question about pushing amps!

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by soong, Oct 12, 2016.


  1. soong

    soong

    May 10, 2007
    Sydney
    This just arrived by my door today! The new TX600 and two Hartke Hydrive 112 Cabs. Running them at 8ohm each.

    The Hartke cabs are great! The switchable impedance is a great feature.

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    First impressions: The TX is super clean, and has a lot of nice snap to it. It weighs nothing! One thing I did notice is, that it is very quiet. Using my Sadowsky and if had the Gain and Master at 12, it is at a quiet bedroom level. It seems to have a big spike in volume after 3'oclock. Should the gain be turned up as loud as it can go without any signs of distortion or clipping? This was to me, the minimum gig volume needed. Is it safe to drive and amp this hard for a whole gig? No very noticeable signs of distortion at these settings also. Here are my settings:

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    Any ideas people?
     
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  2. tfer

    tfer

    Jan 1, 2014
    Turn the gain up as high as you like.

    If you don't want grind or distortion, turn it up until it starts to break up, then back it off a HAIR.
     
  3. soong

    soong

    May 10, 2007
    Sydney
    Thanks man. So it's safe to turn the gain up to max if my master is low?
     
  4. B-string

    B-string Supporting Member

    Absolutely. It would also be fine if the master is turned up for performing volume. They are not "gas pedals", set them where you need them.
     
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  5. soong

    soong

    May 10, 2007
    Sydney
    Thanks!
     
  6. dbase

    dbase Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 3, 2008
    South Jersey, USA..
    Good luck with you new rig.
     
  7. Linnin

    Linnin

    Jul 19, 2012
    Linningrad, Earth
    Looks nice! :thumbsup: I'd love to play through that rig. :bassist:
     
  8. I am very foreign to the TX600, but my Kilo is also very quiet until I reach 1 o'clock on the volume knob.... Then it gets REALLY loud from there. That is, when I'm in Stereo Mode. Rig looks good, good luck!
     
  9. The Chuck

    The Chuck

    Dec 11, 2013
    Wilmington, NC
    FWIW- My PF800 isn't all that loud at 11-12:00 (it's not bedroom level either) but after 12:00 it really takes off. That is where it really starts to shine IMO.
     
  10. soong

    soong

    May 10, 2007
    Sydney
    Thanks for the replies guys! Question - do you use your TX600 and PF800 on these settings for gigs (cranking past 12 o'clock) and have you noticed any unwanted distortion/clipping beyond this point?
     
  11. The Chuck

    The Chuck

    Dec 11, 2013
    Wilmington, NC
    The bands I play with aren't "loud" bands (thank god) so I am mostly in the 11-1 o'clock zone at 90% of my bar gigs.

    When outdoors or in a bigger place I add my second 4.5XL cab and am usually between 12 and 2. I never have to crank it much more than that.

    I have had no problems with unwanted distortion at all.
     
  12. Again... I do not own a TX600. My Kilo is much larger. But, I can imagine there would be clipping and distortion if the gain was turned up to that point.
     
  13. navijaz

    navijaz Guest

    Sep 20, 2016
    Hey, I was wondering whether you have found out more about this. I got my TX600 today and found pretty much the same thing that you have. In order to get a somewhat loud output from this amp, I have to push the gain to max and the master to past 3 o' clock. It's still not louder than the HA5500 in my practice room is at 9 o'clock on the master. I also haven't been able to drive the input into anything close to clipping, even at max on the passive input (which might not mean anything...)

    Now granted, I have only had it hooked up to a Fender Rumble 115 v3 at home so far. Will hopefully be able to hook it up to a Hartke Hydrive 410 tomorrow to see if that brings out the power. For now, I am a little underwhelmed... :cautious:
     
  14. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Commercial User

    Feb 20, 2009
    alpha-music.com
    i'd do the opposite; dime the master entirely (essentially removing it from the equation) and just bring the pre gain up until you're loud enough.
     
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  15. navijaz

    navijaz Guest

    Sep 20, 2016
    OK, I will give that a try and see what it does. Is that a "normal" approach, though?
     
  16. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Commercial User

    Feb 20, 2009
    alpha-music.com
    i think so. master volumes on bass amps are kinda weird.
     
  17. soong

    soong

    May 10, 2007
    Sydney
    This is a direct quote for Larry Hartke who very helpfully sent this to me, regarding setting levels for the TX600:

    "Yes set the gain as high as you can without the lightsaround the knob flashing red (that indicates an overload on the preamp). Then use the master. The master volume taper is not linear so it will get loud slowly and then increase in volume quicker the farther you turn it up. It will start hitting hard around 1:00 or 2:00 O'clock that's normal for that type of control."
     
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  18. navijaz

    navijaz Guest

    Sep 20, 2016
    OK, great. Thank you very much! It's awesome that Larry Hartke is so responsive. At least we know it's not a fault of the amp then. It still seems a bit quieter than expected to me but that might be partly psychological. Feels weird to basically dime a 600W amp.
     
  19. JesseNissenbaum

    JesseNissenbaum

    Nov 16, 2016
    Hi Everyone,

    My name is Jesse Nissenbaum, I am a Product Specialist and Video Editor over at Hartke. We understand there have been some questions regarding volume settings on the new TX 600 and hopefully this tutorial will be helpful.

    Please feel free to write me directly if you ever have any questions on Hartke (or Samson) products: [email protected]

    I will be sure to check back here from time and help with any questions you guys have!

     
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  20. soong

    soong

    May 10, 2007
    Sydney
    Super helpful Jesse - thanks!
     
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