The thing looks new and I got it off eBay. I mean not even shop worn. The strings still had metallic ping when I first plugged it in. It weights just under 8 pounds and is balanced very well. The setup is fairly low action with *very* little neck relief. I really only tried it with everything dimed and just used my right hand for tonal variation. I find that if played like I play a fretted with the right hand tips and back toward the bridge, you almost can't tell it's fretless. I'm sure most non players couldn't. To get max mwah is a whole other ballgame. But with some tips I've received, it was pretty easy. It will be interesting to see if I lose mwah (or some mwah) when going to Half-Rounds or if it is totally technique. I can see my fretted basses are going to be lonely for a while.