I'm very interested in learning to play bass. That of course requires me to purchase one. This forum has been an awesome resource but I'd still appretiate some input on really good beginner bass guitars. I'm kinda strapped for cash so I'm looking for something cheap, cheap enough that I can buy an amp too and not have to move out and eat Raman noodles for the next few months. The other question I have is about starter packages. Should I buy a "Bass Pack" or just go out and buy the guitar and amp seperatly? Lastly, anybody know any good guitar shops in upstate New York, I live close to Elmira and Ithaca so if anybody could give me some names I'd appreciate it. Thanks for putting up with yet another newbie post.