No adjustment room left for Intonation

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by Peg_legs, Nov 25, 2005.

  1. Peg_legs


    Nov 19, 2005
    Huntsville, AL
    I have a 4 string tuned BEAD using the low 4 of a 5 string set (130). This left my 12th fret notes sharp. I have run out of adjustment room and the B and E are still sharp. Any suggestions? Should I cut the springs on the bridge? It's a Tobias Growler by the way.

  2. Akami

    Akami Four on the floor

    You can even take the springs off completely. Give it a try and see if you get enough room for proper adjustment then.

    If that gives you more room than you need then you could consider cutting the springs and putting them back in but with strings on the bass the springs really serve no function and only become useful when there are no strings on.

    The only purpose the springs serve is to prevent the bridge pieces from moving around when the strings are off, assuring they're in the proper position when re-strung. That's why most expensive bridges don't even have them; they're designed so as not to allow movement with the strings off.
  3. nickname


    Jan 22, 2005
    im having this same problem. ive run out of room to move the saddle, but the intonation si still sharp

    there seems to be no change whatsoever where i put the saddle
  4. WillBuckingham


    Mar 30, 2005
    That's an expensive bass, right? I wouldn't cut the springs . . . either take them off or get some new ones and save the originals.
  5. ctxbass

    ctxbass Supporting Member

    Nov 6, 2003
    Central Texas
    If you already have the saddle backed up as far as it will go after removing the spring, try tuning the string just a bit flat so that the 5th and 7th frets tune true.
  6. SGT. Pepper

    SGT. Pepper Banned

    Nov 20, 2005
    You may need a neck adjustment. If the neck is off it will through everything else out of whack. When the neck is ajusted properly, everything else falls into place. ;)
  7. pickles

    pickles Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
    Switch to a taper core set, then it will intonate correctly with the saddles quite a bit farther forward. Try Dean Markley SR2000s.
  8. Totally not scientific explainable, but it still works from time to time.

    If you're at the max and you can't adjust any more: try to screw it back to the other max, tune up, tune down and intonate again. Sometimes this gives just that little bit of room you need to get the note an A and not a sharp A ;)
  9. SGT. Pepper

    SGT. Pepper Banned

    Nov 20, 2005
  10. quite a good point....the proper combination of relief and back angle on the neck will help tremendously with both intonation and action adjustments.
  11. FenderMustang45


    Jan 29, 2005
    If you havent already you might want to push down on the strings over the saddle. I've heard people call it "breaking the string over the saddle." You'd be surprised how much this helps.
  12. nickname


    Jan 22, 2005
    this may be stupid but... in my case... i thought i was doing it right but wasnt and was going the wrong way. duh

    so try that... lol
  13. I had the same problem. I just moved the bridge back 1/8".
  14. Chasarms

    Chasarms Casual Observer

    May 24, 2001
    Bettendorf, IA USA