No Respect For US

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by flacoclef, Oct 3, 2001.

  1. flacoclef

    flacoclef Supporting Member

    Sep 10, 2000
    Juncos, Puerto Rico
    Im really mad about people saying that we bass players are just playing the easiest instrument.
    I have a friend, who plays the trumpet, and switched to bass for a few and he says that being a bass player is a breeze. "You just play along with thr root notes, it is just one note at a time" , Even though I know it's not true, I would like you to give me some advise on some good answers to their comments about us.
  2. Hategear

    Hategear Workin' hard at hardly workin'.

    Apr 6, 2001
    Appleton, Swissconsin
    Tell your buddy to take his trumpet and blow.
  3. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    my advice is not to let people get you down so easy.

    or you can send the particularly a$$holish people our way - we've got ways of dealin' with butt monkeys around here.
  4. CaracasBass


    Jun 16, 2001
    Madrid, Spain
    When someone say that playing bass is the easiest part in a band or bass is the easiest instrument.... show him/her a pic of John Turner with his double neck 7 stringer....... cool!!!!!! :cool: :D :D
  5. Bass Guitar

    Bass Guitar Supporting Member

    Aug 13, 2001
    Tell him he is a very elementary basic novice bass player if all he does are root notes. If he's a trumpet player, I assume he knows some Jazz trumpeteers - ask him to play the basslines to some of Miles Davis songs - then ask him if it was easy. Show him what Jaco was doing in the 70s.

    It's easy to play bass on easy songs. It gets harder with more complicated compositions.

    If he's serious about bass, he will learn quickly that it is easier than it looks and seems.
  6. Angus

    Angus Supporting Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Palo Alto, CA
    Sure, it's simple to be a bassist...but it's hard to be a musician!
  7. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Ask him to demonstrate how he plays a chord on the trumpet??!! :confused:
  8. Well, for the most part (pun intended) most bass parts ARE the easiest voice in a given band. With obvious (and not so obvious) exceptions.

    Who cares anyway?

    "Hey, I can play difficult stuff too guys!! Look at me!!! This is really difficult guys, why aren't you looking at me?"

    It's not a competition.
  9. kirbywrx

    kirbywrx formerly James Hetfield

    Jul 27, 2000
    Melbourne, Australia.
    i dont see u playing any music instrument

    that if they dont play a musical instrument
  10. flacoclef

    flacoclef Supporting Member

    Sep 10, 2000
    Juncos, Puerto Rico
    Thanks for your replies. :)
  11. brewer9


    Jul 5, 2000
    Someone can be as good or as bad as they want to be at any instrument.

    I think its often the case though, that the worst member of many local bands is their bass player. I think its because sometimes the bass player is someone who couldnt play the guitar well (or trumpet), and switched to bass in order to hide.

    These guys always have really muddy sounds that make distinguishing their notes impossible. See, I knew you'd seen these guys. Of course there are none at TalkBass, but they're around your town.
  12. Rockinjc


    Dec 17, 1999
    Easy to start out on...
    Difficult to master!

  13. Hategear

    Hategear Workin' hard at hardly workin'.

    Apr 6, 2001
    Appleton, Swissconsin
    Most of the bassists around my area try to be flashy, without getting the basic foundation right. I personally prefer to play simpler lines and get the sh*t right (I get a little bit fancier the more I play that particular song), whereas most of the other schlubs around my town try to fancy it up too much. That's great if that's what you wanna do, but they don't even get the "fancy notes" right. Sure, they may look good while they're doing it, but in the end, they didn't really play anything. I always compare it to masturbating without an orgasm.
  14. brewer9


    Jul 5, 2000
    Hmmm, I really dont want to conjure up that particular image. I'm not sure how "good" they look while they're doing it and I dont want to find out either.

    But, hey if thats your thing....go for it.
  15. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    yeah, if you want to suck. I see a trend of raising the bar a little bit, and it makes me happy. bassists are starting to get heard again, and that forces them to either be musicians or quit. Fine. You certainly don't have to play root notes, or one note at a time, and by god it may just make you more interesting!! Say some of those things then punch him in the face as hard as you can.:D

    edit: just to be sure everybody gets the smiley, the punch thing is a joke, m'k?
  16. nikofthehill


    Jul 30, 2001
    san jose, CA

    or just ignore him:cool:
  17. Challenge the trumpet boy to play the bass fingerstyle for THREE HOURS STRAIGHT! AND FAST!

    When he starts crying coz his fingers are bleeding... :D
  18. It's not about simply playing root notes. Hitting the notes are easy, but playing them with emotions, groove, rythmic variations, melodic lines, laying down solid timing, constant dynamics, chords, harmonics, false harmonics, etc. Not to mention thumbing and plucking, and all different techniques that had evolved from players' innovative approaches.

    So how many different playing variations from him to his trumpet can he pull off? Like can he use all his saliva accumulated from 3 minutes of playing and make his trumpet sound like it's gargling??

  19. Deynn

    Deynn Moderator Emeritus

    Aug 9, 2000
    I played trumpet for over thirty years and I have to say that the bass guitar IS "start out on". Sure...I can put my fingers on the frets and play the right notes....BUT.....
    I cannot use my breath to control the notes. It is all in my touch. And so far, my fingering is no where near as fast as it was on my trumpet.
    The longer I play bass....the more it challenges me. And I suppose that is one of the reasons I enjoy it. As someone else alreaady said.....
    Easy to play....HARD to master...;)
  20. chipmolter

    chipmolter Guest

    Aug 27, 2001
    Baltimore, MD
    It depends on the band setup. In my group, we cull our songs from extended jam sessions. My job in those sessions is to act as a medium between the beat and the melody. In an improv situation, I'd say the bass is the hardest of all parts!