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non guitarist style wah use

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by nappingcracker, Nov 30, 2005.


  1. Anyone have some good ideas to learn to use a wah on /not/ like a guitarist? I need to learn some wah theory, and do not want to wank on the pedal as I hear some many guitarist do (sounds cool, but you cant have two wahs flailing about).
     
  2. use a wah not like a guitarist?
    well, the only way that i know to use a wah is fast wah, slow wah, treble to bass wah, bass to treble wah, and keeping the wah in one place as a filter or sorts...but i know all guitar players (and any other instrument for that matter) have used all these techniques...
    my thoughts are, if it doesn't sound right, don't do it...think about the song...
     
  3. Right, it the pedal can only do so many things, but can you think of some artists/recordings that use a wah in a subtle/ unique/ slick/ nontraditional/ wierd/whatever way?
     
  4. bass_drum

    bass_drum

    Feb 13, 2005
    Alberta,Canada
    Its all wah to me. :rolleyes:

    Hmm well the only "non-conventional" ways I can think of is wah with distortion, mind you thats pretty convential nowadays anyways haha. Check out Cliff Burtons bass solo Pulling teeth (Anesthesia) (he uses it to get an almost "muffled" effect and then goes on the treble side to make it jump out) and also listen to Calm Like a bomb by rage agaisnt the machine, the bass player gets a really growly-wah sound plus the song has a sweet bass intro (although no wah its still cool :p ).
     
  5. Ill check out the Cliff Burton, and yes, Tim's intros are always a crowd pleaser! Any other suggestions?
     
  6. slapcracklepop

    slapcracklepop

    Jun 28, 2005
    Boston, MA
    Could you elaborate on these? I'm curious too.. More specifically the treble -> bass, and bass -> treble. Using the wah normally will do bass - > treble right? Is the other technique when you have the wah pedal all the way in, and then release it as your playing the note(s)?
     
  7. I think he is referring to heel-->toe for the note, return silently from toe-->heel (quick with muted strings), hit note again with heel-->toe. And vice versa. Kinda yeilds a "wee" (h-->t) vs "yoww" (t-->h).

    you can get some neat sci-fi laser sounds especially with the toe-->heel. tricky at speed.
     
  8. full bass side gives big boomy "dub" style sound.

    Stopped mid way and piped through a fuzz tears the heads off of the front five rows of punters.

    Full treble is... well... pretty useless if you ask me!

    I sometimes use it in a build up, kinda hard to do though. Start at full bass, and ever so slowly bump it up over the course of 8 or 16 bars until it's midway (but not so far as to suck the bass response out of the tone!)

    Guitarists tend to "overextend" when using wahs - going from full bass to full treble and back again in 0.02 seconds flat! I mostly sit mine midway and do very slight rocks back and forth.

    Oh yeah, and stick it after a tremolo and freak out the establishement!
     
  9. chaosMK

    chaosMK

    May 26, 2005
    Albuquerque, NM
    Hi-fi into an old tube amp
    I have a riff or two with my Dunlop Bass Wah where I release it in segments, in time (one long release) over a measure or two and use its cut-off effect to create a rhythmic pattern. This works for me with open strings/open + octave.
     
  10. yes...thats what i meant :)
     
  11. thejohnkim

    thejohnkim

    Sep 30, 2003
    NYC
    yeah i also mostly use a wah rocker in a slow release over several beats...

    .....but guitarists do that too all the time
     
  12. this sounds like an interesting idea, I have a phaser, Ill try running that into the wah with low depth and high speed. Wonder what it would sound like trying to "cancel" the phaser by rocking the wah opposite the phase sweep....
     
  13. Dash Rantic

    Dash Rantic

    Nov 12, 2005
    Palo Alto, CA
    Going heel to toe while sliding up and toe to heel while sliding down on your bass always sounds interesting. If you can twitch your foot really fast, you can get some very cool tremolo sounds. Don't need to move it much for that, just a bit. Doing that along with an actual tremolo... Does get fun :)

    Also, the Dunlop 105q gives a little "pop" when you take your fot off the pedal, due to the auto-off feature. Most people hate it, but I can get some funky stuff going with it... Just mess around.

    -Dash
     
  14. Plain Old Me

    Plain Old Me

    Dec 14, 2004
    I sometimes use wah + distortion + flanger, and man does that combination scream!
     
  15. stick a spring under the toe end of the wah, then it will pop back to the heal posistion as soon as you take your foot off of it. also you can go really fast doing this. or if you have 2 wahs hooks them up with a board across them so one is going heal - toe and the other is going toe - heal (never tried this one, but i think that it would be interesting.)

    lowsound