North Korean propaganda film on US culture gets pretty close to nailing it...

IBTL

 

no politics

 

I was going to refrain from posting, but now that my friends are here...

 

neato! Is this the one about us having to live under tarps and eat snow to survive?

 

Why is it that someone, such as the makers of this film, always has some revelation about how we commodify everything, and then acts like it's some groundbreaking news? Theodor Adorno and the rest of the Frankfurt School were writing about this stuff decades ago and were much more intellectual and much less sensationalist about it.

Another issue I always have with arguments such as the film is that is always assumes some teleological intention behind things like passivity of the masses when there's little direct evidence of that. I doubt there are people sitting around boardrooms saying, "We will get people hooked on consumerism, and then they will easily fold under the NWO agenda! Bwahahaha!" Instead, those things should be treated as residual latent effects of some cause, at least until there's evidence of a teleological intention behind things like consumerism and commodification that goes beyond wealth generation.

Just my $.02 (no pun intended) on the matter.

 

You are mistaken

 

I watched like 3 minutes and it just seems more like a TMZ report than propaganda. :scowl:

 

Yea, that one's hilarious. There's even a homeless guy in a tent with a Packer jacket as I recall..."as he enjoys his warm snow". Yea, we're all proud of our tent homes and living year round in an arctic climate.

 

You ain't got no friends, Buffy Binder

 

So, a couple dozen famous weirdos make us a country of losers. And yet North Koreans live an AWESOME life full of joy, opportunity, self-fulfilling prophecy, and individual achievement. (That was sarcasm)

What do I think about the makers of that video?

I'll take a few spoiled rotten idiots on TV over that they have 6 days a week and twice on Sundays.

By the way, this is culture, not politics. The only thing that may swing it into the no no zone is that over there, government DOMINATES the culture. Government IS the culture. In fact this video HAS to be made by their government because if North Koreans got wind of the freedom and opportunity here, the individualism here, the liberty (that used to be) here, there would be a revolt. They have to convince their people that what they see on the video is how we all live so that liberty will be seen as something unattractive. They have to be CONVINCED that their way of life is awesome. No thanks. I'm fine NOT having to bow before a picture of any leader here.

Again, this is CULTURE, not politics. So lighten up and have a conversation.

 

Sure, there's no doubt I'd rather live anywhere in the west rather than North korea, but if you remove the video from the context of where and by whom it was made it's pretty much spot on.

And no, a small minority of famous weirdos does not make a country of losers. A huge number of people living vicariously through those famous weirdos on the other hand... (And that's not a blow at the u.s. alone, people over here in europe are just as bad.)

 

When Kim Jong Un's inauguration (or whatever it was) was on tv, i was visiting my folks. My mum said, "look, he's shaking" to which my dad replied, "he's thinking about his next pie".

My dad is a legend

 

I very rarely turn on a television and I don't care at all about celebrities' personal lives.


I care even less what North Korea thinks of the personal lives of US celebrities.


Does any of this matter even a little bit?

 

I always thought that was Jive1 in that funny suit.

 

I didn't realize that we were so screwed up!! I'm moving to North Korea Immediately!

 

Funny thing about propaganda.. it's an art form. You mix in a little truth here and there in just the right amounts and it makes the outright bs parts go down easier. I haven't watched yet but.... did I guess right?