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Not again ! Another blown Ashdown Blueline ..

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by =^..^=, Nov 16, 2001.

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  1. Nov 16, 2001 #1
    =^..^=

    =^..^=

    Jan 25, 2001
    Stuck on a rock !
    Just popped my second Blueline 15" speaker tonight. Well to be honest I think it was dead when I got to the gig.

    Plugged in - hmm, no rumble - unplugged it and it was no different. Put my head up against the speaker. Nothing. Dead, Deceased, ex-speaker.

    It goes back to the shop tommorrow. This replacement only lasted a couple of months...
     
  2. Nov 16, 2001 #2
    Nomadic Herder

    Nomadic Herder

    Aug 20, 2000
    Worcester, MA
    This speaker has ceased to be! It is no more! If ya hadn't have nailed it to its cab, it'd be pushin up the daisies!
     
  3. Nov 16, 2001 #3
    =^..^=

    =^..^=

    Jan 25, 2001
    Stuck on a rock !
    Lovely plumage on the Norwegian Blueline...
     
  4. Nov 16, 2001 #4
    Nomadic Herder

    Nomadic Herder

    Aug 20, 2000
    Worcester, MA
    Seriously, though...why do you keep blowing speakers? Are they crap or are you overpowering them?
     
  5. Nov 16, 2001 #5
    =^..^=

    =^..^=

    Jan 25, 2001
    Stuck on a rock !
    I've got an Ashdown AMB 4*10 500 with the 15" external cab, so the max wattage into 4 ohms is about 540 watts - or pretty loud.

    I think I blew it at my last gig prior to tonight, the place only holds about 50 people max, so it was not even vaguely being pushed...

    When the first one went I was told it was from a bad batch of speakers they'd had. This one has only lasted a couple of months (3 months?) so I think I'll be asking for a different replacement.
     
  6. Nov 16, 2001 #6
    modulusbassist

    modulusbassist

    Aug 19, 2001
    Henderson, Nevada
    Just wondering, do Ashdown still hand made their stuff? I was so close of getting their older head and 4 x 10(the ones with the tolex). I don't understand it, if they know the speaker was from a bad batch, then why don't they inform the dealer or on their website?

    And if they are hand made, it doesn't necessarily more reliable?

    Thanks
     
  7. Nov 16, 2001 #7
    =^..^=

    =^..^=

    Jan 25, 2001
    Stuck on a rock !
    The Bluelines are supposed to be Celestions but the one I pulled out of the cab last time wasn't branded as a celestion, it was an Italian make - I checked their website out and they made speakers for a lot of amp manufactures including mesa boogie.

    When the first one went Ashdown told my LMS that they had had 3 * 15's back in the week before mine went and they suspected it was a bad batch. I don't know how many are in a batch, but I'm not sure I even want another blueline back in my cab.

    This time I'm just taking it back to the shop - they can have the hassle of getting it out. I'll ask them to find out what the brand is though and post the URL of the speaker manufacturers site.
     
  8. Nov 16, 2001 #8
    modulusbassist

    modulusbassist

    Aug 19, 2001
    Henderson, Nevada
    Mmmm, that's weird, I never heard an Italian speaker manufacturer before that supplies to Bass Cabinet companies, I know the standards are Celestion and Eminence. Italian made? Interesting.
     
  9. Nov 16, 2001 #9
    Donne Demarest

    Donne Demarest

    May 4, 2001
    Sebastopol, CA
    Celestions are no longer made in England. They are manufactured in the Orient. Wonder if that would make a difference?
     
  10. Nov 16, 2001 #10
    modulusbassist

    modulusbassist

    Aug 19, 2001
    Henderson, Nevada
    So how about Eminence? Where are they made? God, I hate it when companies don't tell you that the speakers that they are using are made over seas.
     
  11. Nov 16, 2001 #11
    modulusbassist

    modulusbassist

    Aug 19, 2001
    Henderson, Nevada
    One more question and then I'm going to see No Use For A Name live, and get drunk with some punk rock girls.

    I saw Adam Clayton of U2 endorsing Ashdown in Bass Player magazine, but when I check out the Ashdown website, how come there's no Ashdown
    2 x 12 or the Ashdown Bass bins? Those thing looks sweet, all there is in the website is the boring Blue Line. Where are those Adam Clayton endorsed speakers?
     
  12. Nov 16, 2001 #12
    xush

    xush

    Jul 4, 2001
    mobile AL
    yeah, isn't Entwistle using the ASS bins too?
    Bet they'd voom if ya put 10,000 volts thru them...
     
  13. Nov 17, 2001 #13
    barroso

    barroso

    Aug 16, 2000
    Italia
    can you please tell me the name of the italian brand that makes that ashdown speakers?
    thanks
     
  14. Nov 17, 2001 #14
    JMX

    JMX Vorsprung durch Technik

    Sep 4, 2000
    Cologne, Germany
    Tech Soundsystem use Ciare, which are from Italy I think.

    www.tech-soundsystems.de

    Glockenklang uses or used RCF speakers in their BassArt and Tedd cabs.

    www.glockenklang.de

    But I don't know which brand Ashdown uses.
     
  15. Nov 17, 2001 #15
    funkycarnivore

    funkycarnivore

    Sep 16, 2000
    California, United States
    I blew a blue speaker too! Not sure when it happened, but my rig hasn't sounded as good for about a week, and I finally discovered that that's why. It's an 8" from the Ashdown Boxter, which I don't think they're making anymore, so I'm looking into my options.
    fc
     
  16. Nov 18, 2001 #16
    Ty McNeely

    Ty McNeely

    Mar 27, 2000
    TX
    I'm not sure what the rest of you think, but I'm definitely not impressed with Ashdown in the reliability aspect. Thats 3 blown speakers and a plain ol' dead amp in the past 3 days.

    Has anybody else had any reliability problems with their Ashdowns?
     
  17. Nov 18, 2001 #17
    funkycarnivore

    funkycarnivore

    Sep 16, 2000
    California, United States
    The rest of my Ashdown gear is okay--the amp and the other cab work just like new.
     
  18. Nov 18, 2001 #18
    mchildree

    mchildree Supporting Member

    Sep 4, 2000
    AL/GA
    I'm wondering something: Are you guys with blown speakers using the sub-harmonic synth thingy on the Ashdowns? When I saw that feature, I figured it'd sound great but my next thought was that it was going to lead to lots of blown speakers if they haven't installed a cone/coil/suspension assembly that's up to it. As many great things as I've heard about Ashdown's tone, I'd be leery because of the reliability aspects myself.

    Eminence speakers are made in Eminence, KY by the way.
     
  19. Nov 18, 2001 #19
    funkycarnivore

    funkycarnivore

    Sep 16, 2000
    California, United States
    I hardly ever use the subharmonic thing. It IS an eight though, and I've gotten away with using the 2x8 as a standalone for almost a year.
     
  20. Nov 18, 2001 #20
    =^..^=

    =^..^=

    Jan 25, 2001
    Stuck on a rock !
    I haven't been using the harmoniser as much recently, since the first one blew I've been using an EBS compresser to limit all the spikes just in case it was that. But it wasn't

    My LMS was very helpful, but there wasn't much they could do on a saturday - but they said they'd get it sorted on Monday and give me a shout. I've asked if I can have the speaker replaced with something which isn't a blueline...

    I'm just about to go and get my screwdrivers and pull the driver out so I'll post back later who make the speakers.
     
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