not just another speed thread

Discussion in 'Technique [BG]' started by kirbywrx, Nov 13, 2001.

  1. kirbywrx

    kirbywrx formerly James Hetfield

    Jul 27, 2000
    Melbourne, Australia.
    well it is but it has a slight difference...i play punk and i want to play with my fingers but since bass lines for punk songs are usually one note played about 8 times it is hard to keep up without a pick/pluctrum. so basically im asking how can i improve my speed WITHOUT a metronome(coz i dont have one)..mods if this has been asked too much its cool if you wanna delete it..just gimme a link to anotha thread..thanks

  2. SuperDuck


    Sep 26, 2000
    I'm honestly not sure. You can exercise your fingers until they blaze back and forth, but if you're not in time it doesn't really mean squat. The only way I know of to build speed is to play with a metronome SLOWLY, and gradually speed up, making sure you are in time. So indirectly I guess I'm telling you to go buy a metronome. :D
  3. red-hot-bassist


    Sep 18, 2001
    ...or your punk band could try somehting new and no one could play intime with anyone else, and you could just go crazy and hit your bass and stuff like that evil man from van wait.....that would scare me.....a lot
  4. Joe Nerve

    Joe Nerve Supporting Member

    Oct 7, 2000
    New York City
    Endorsing artist: Musicman basses, Hipshot products
    I agree with the above that the best way to improve your speed is with a metronome. If you really want to improve - go buy one, they're really cheap. You can see your progress with a metronome because you can set it for as fast as you can go, get comfortable with it, move it up a notch, get comfortable with that, etc., etc.

    The only other way I know to build speed is to just sit there and hammer away a pace that feels a little beyone what's comfortable. Time, practice and patience are the only things that are gonna mean anything in the long run.

    Last note. If you're really against getting a metronome (not sure why you would be), you can use your stereo as a beat keeper. Blast the stereo, unplug your bass, and just play any ol notes in time with whatever song is playing. If it's really fast and you can't keep up, play quarter notes, if it's slower and you can play 16th notes or 32nd notes, then do that - even if you're pumping along slowly, it will help your timing and you speed.
  5. Yvon

    Yvon Supporting Member

    Nov 2, 2000
    Montreal, Canada
    there is a web site, I don't remember wich one that have a metronome. I think they also have drum beat.

    You can probably find a metronome (used) for like 5$, so don't tell me you don't have enough money to buy one!!
  6. kirbywrx

    kirbywrx formerly James Hetfield

    Jul 27, 2000
    Melbourne, Australia.
    i think ill go get one today since i have the day off coz im "sick":D yeh i am sick. but yeah i think ill go get a cheap one from the dodgy family ran music shop at the corner who think the best amps, guitars and basses are samicks.:rolleyes: anyway getting back to the metronome thing are there any good brands or are they all the same?

  7. beermonkey


    Sep 26, 2001
    Seattle, WA
    A metronome is a metronome, the ones that just keep simple click click click time are anyways.

    Another way to develop speed is to just play a lot. You wind up developing both speed and endurance at the same time, which is a good thing. Eventually, you'll find that you can play much faster for extended periods of time. Jaco always said he developed his speed/endurance/precision by just playing a lot. Like 3-4 sets a night 6 nights a week.
  8. Oysterman


    Mar 30, 2000
    Not all metronomes are the same, some have more options than others. E.g. on my Korg MA-20 (get one of these) I can change which beat should be accented, I can tap temo and I can even make it squeal some pitches for tuning reference. Can't do that on all metronomes. Also, some metronomes I've encountered have a click sound that doesn't cut through the sound of an amplified bass guitar, even at lower volumes. They're too... "discreet".

    I recommend the Korg MA-20. Shouldn't cost you more than $20-$25.
  9. JMX

    JMX Vorsprung durch Technik

    Sep 4, 2000
    Cologne, Germany
    There are tons of freeware metronome programs available on the net.

    Band in a Box is a great practice tool too. You can even practice over chord changes with a midi band.
    The GUI looks a bit old-fashioned, but it's a cool program.