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Discussion in 'Basses [DB]' started by C.Veltman, Sep 16, 2001.

  1. Sep 16, 2001 #1
    C.Veltman

    C.Veltman Guest

    Jun 6, 2000
    Stockholm Sweden
    .Hello again :)

    Here is a bass I "found" a few days ago.
    But where does it come from who made it ?
    It´s a 3/4, 106cm scale, round back
    likely from the 1920´s. (Solid wood of course).
    Original varnish.
    A knowledgable bassfriend of mine asumes it being German, what do you think ?

    Your thought are appreciated :)
    Kind regards,
    CV
     
  2. Sep 16, 2001 #2
    reedo35

    reedo35

    Jul 29, 2000
    Colorado Springs CO
    Hey, Christian, that's an Emmanuel Wilfer
    crest on the back. I'm willing to bet it was made in Markneukirchen between 1921-1925. Are you sure that varnish on the front is original? Maybe it's the picture, but it looks pretty dark. The picture of the back looks much closer to the color of the Wilfer varnish.
     
  3. Sep 17, 2001 #3
    C.Veltman

    C.Veltman Guest

    Jun 6, 2000
    Stockholm Sweden
    Hi Reedo35
    and thanks for your reply !

    I believe the varnish to be original. It´s very
    dark and also difficult to picture correctly.
    Please view the scan, it gives you somekind
    of impression of the colour.
    Yes, I have edited the scan a little...
    as you can see the front and back at the same time ;-)

    It´s on it´s way to the "doctor" as the
    board needs to be planed.

    Thanks again :))
    Christian
     
  4. Sep 17, 2001 #4
    Monte

    Monte

    Jan 9, 2001
    DFW Area, Tejas
    The crst does not automatically make it a Wilfer. My !930's 5 string Juzek has the same exact crest seen here:Back of my bass

    Monte
     
  5. Sep 18, 2001 #5
    farmerdude

    farmerdude

    Jul 12, 2001
    Rural Kansas City
    Good move. Get rid of that bevel.
     
  6. Sep 18, 2001 #6
    David Kaczorowski

    David Kaczorowski

    Apr 25, 2000
    South Jersey/Philadelphia
    At some point, Wilfers and Juzeks began coming from the same factory. Their only differences are who finished them.
     
  7. Sep 18, 2001 #7
    brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts
    I have a Juzek with that crest, also a "no-name" Gemran bass with the same crest!! Must have been a popular one :D

    Both my basses are plywood.
     
  8. Sep 18, 2001 #8
    Monte

    Monte

    Jan 9, 2001
    DFW Area, Tejas
    I believe that was the German factory post WWII. I also know Wilfer's of that era were marketed under different names. When I was trying to find out info on my bass (it is unlabeled), Bryce at Hammond Ashley told me the crest meant very little and was used on several different brands, all identical. The only ways mine was identified as a Juzek were 1) Luthier comparing it to an old music catalog c.1930 2) Luthier comparing it to other Juzeks he had seen 3) I compared it to every Juzek I could find on the web 4) Fittings, especially tuners and strips of wood around neck block, suggested Juzek 5) Fingerboard stamped in small letters underneath Czechoslovokia. All these things led Rocky to believe it was a Juzek. To make matters more confusing, at some point someone stuck a violin label on the inside that had fallen to the bottom which said "Genuine Jan Kriml, made in Germany. I can't find any Jan Kriml basses ever made.

    Monte