alrighty, here's something interesting to think about: All of us love somethin' so all of us presumably hate somethin' too =0) and we've all done the "ugly basses" thing before. So what big-time "good" basses are just plain overrated crap, IYHO? Not an x-is-better-than-y debate, but you as a player don't like to play...? I'll have to admit that I didn't like the first few Ric's I ever played, but it's been a few years and I'd like to give them another try. I can't stand playing Precisions, myself. MIM, MIJ, MIA, whatever. anyone else?