And hopefully loud too. Some state that several of the super 12's can give 210's and some 410's a run for their money. But which? Can any pair of Super 12's compete with the NV610 for volume? I've read reviews and opinions here, read spec charts, & watched KJung's youtube video's (thanks!!) regarding Acme, Baer, Audiokinesis, etc...and I am leaning towards an Acme Fulllrange/Flatwound combo but not sold on it yet only because I think that any of my choices will please me. I will purchase/need 2 cabinets. I'm a 4 string (occasional 5 string) player and like clean but also an aggressive, tubey tone depending on the need. I usually use a jazz bass & sometimes a P. For amps I have a pre/power rig Eden Nav/Crown @ 1100W a side, Ampeg SVT7PRO, and an Ampeg PF500. Sadly, the Berg & my Ampeg SVT2 gotta go.