It would be very interesting to see photos of how the exterior box looked at delivery. I know for myself that if I see a torn box or other unusual visual evidence at delivery, I keep the driver with me to further examine the gear. If the box was perfectly undamaged, I would say the problem happened at the factory prior to the cab being loaded into the shipping box.
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The smaller the foot, the less force it takes. The shipping box was intact. A small design change could make a big difference.
On a related note, the large pizza is most often a better deal than the small
Barefaced was not the shipper, so this is just a PSA. You guys are awesome.
I'd been running the cab landscape and only recently noticed the damage. My claim window is long passed.
These feet are small compared to all my other cabs of similar weight. The damage appears to be due to to a vertical drop focused on one foot. If larger feet had been installed, I suspect the cracking of the wood could have been avoided. Possibly original packaging is more robust as well.
alexclaber
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If the box was intact then there was insufficient protective packaging inside the box. Sorry but this isn't a PSA, this is about someone shipping something secondhand and not packing it properly.
Changing any component is never a small change, there are so many details to consider - we have numerous different models that use this small foot, that we changed to in 2013/2014 as an improvement over the previous small feet. I don't see this one-off secondhand purchase shipping impact damage as a good reason to change the feet - they're feet, not car bumpers or crumple zones!
I've seen a lot of posts over the years and this is the first (I think) about the foot size. It's unfortunate it happened but it's certainly not an issue worthy of a design change, or that anyone should consider when buying a BF cab.
When shipping, feet on cabs are like knobs on amps in that they have to be given consideration while packing. The wise packer will add support under the cab itself so the weight -- and therefore any force of impact -- is not on the feet during shipment.
It's been a while, but I seem to recall my BB3 being packed in exactly this manner.
It's been a while, but I seem to recall my BB3 being packed in exactly this manner.
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Yes, and always take photos/video of any damaged box before opening - and keep the packaging material for at least a bit, if you need to file a claim.
I agree that the damaged cabinet should have been packaged with greater protection around the feet. I alerted the reseller. Like I said, it is my fault for not thoroughly inspecting the item back in February, and I'm not seeking any redress.If the box was intact then there was insufficient protective packaging inside the box. Sorry but this isn't a PSA, this is about someone shipping something secondhand and not packing it properly.
Changing any component is never a small change, there are so many details to consider - we have numerous different models that use this small foot, that we changed to in 2013/2014 as an improvement over the previous small feet. I don't see this one-off secondhand purchase shipping impact damage as a good reason to change the feet - they're feet, not car bumpers or crumple zones!
It is my observation that my other cabinets of similar size and weight *all* utilize wider feet, perhaps double the surface area. A wider foot would be less likely to be pushed through into the cabinet. Perhaps, if the foot had an angle or bevel to it, or was wider than it is tall, rather than being almost cylindrical in shape, the impact may have played out differently.
Please, don't issue an airbag recall on any of your designs
But please take my well meant criticism of this minor detail to heart.Just a dummy who should have inspected more carefully.
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Just gigged my ST for the first time last night.
The amount of clean low end the cab outs out borders on the comical. I ran the HPF on my Mesa 800+ almost at noon and bass was still filling the room. The immediate articulation and clarity were simply magical. I loved playing through it every singe second and the bandmates loved how it sounded.
Also, it's deceptively loud. Because it's so clean, you can crank it way more without realizing how loud you're getting.
As my son put it, it's like a Retina display for bass, clarity clarity clarity all across the board.
Super happy with the cab.
The amount of clean low end the cab outs out borders on the comical. I ran the HPF on my Mesa 800+ almost at noon and bass was still filling the room. The immediate articulation and clarity were simply magical. I loved playing through it every singe second and the bandmates loved how it sounded.
Also, it's deceptively loud. Because it's so clean, you can crank it way more without realizing how loud you're getting.
As my son put it, it's like a Retina display for bass, clarity clarity clarity all across the board.
Super happy with the cab.
How do you like your GK with these cabs? I've really been wanting to pickup a barefaced to run with a 400RB…
Dug out the Four 10 and sat the Orange AD200 on top for a loud gig at the weekend. I normally sit the Two 10 on top to make a Six 10 but I have to say the tone and volume from that single little cab was huge. Yes there was considerable foh and monitor supprt but the guitar and drums were cranked through the monitors and I could still hear myself clear as a bell. It was that low but tight tone that always appeals to me on stage, audible but filling out things at the bottom of the mix. This may be my new go to for a while and just use the Six 10 combo with the Aggie 751. Those BF 10s seem to get better the more you drive them.
I'm sure four 10s are indeed huge. I have a One10T and a One10 and it's ridiculously loud. Enjoy!
I like the 700RB with every cab I played it through so far
Unfortunately I had only few occasions to play the 700RB and BB2 at full rehearsal / gig volume and have mixed experiences: Sometimes I had the impression that the full range flat sound is "too wide" for me, that it lacks "mid punch" and perceived volume in a stage mix. On the other hand I played a pub gig (150 people) without pa-support recently and it was pure tonal bliss, room filling, deep and clear bass
Almost unbelievable for a 112 cab.Bottom line: I think you have to get used to the very flat response of this cab, but if you do so, it brings out the characteristics of any bass and amp nicely.
Took the "silence of the lambs" 310 to an outdoor gig yesterday and it sounded fantastic. Not a crazy loud band but there was lots of headroom from where i was running. Lots of compliments on rhythm section sound.
How does a single One10 sound/play with that GK? Thinking about getting something similar going on for low volume affairs. Trying to keep it simple, portable, and easily expandable if needed.
Honestly, it's more than enough for low volume affairs. Even if you don't have PA support, I think you'll be happy with the results. The MB200 is a great pair with that cab.
Get used to it is completely necessary... After a year of owning my BB3, I am liking the cab now. At the beginning I was very complained with the mids and now, after switching to steel strings, I can find better a tone that I like.I like the 700RB with every cab I played it through so far
Unfortunately I had only few occasions to play the 700RB and BB2 at full rehearsal / gig volume and have mixed experiences: Sometimes I had the impression that the full range flat sound is "too wide" for me, that it lacks "mid punch" and perceived volume in a stage mix. On the other hand I played a pub gig (150 people) without pa-support recently and it was pure tonal bliss, room filling, deep and clear bass
Bottom line: I think you have to get used to the very flat response of this cab, but if you do so, it brings out the characteristics of any bass and amp nicely.
I think it is a useful cab at places with bad acoustics.
It puts the lotion on, or it gets the hose again.
Nice to see this cab out on a gig. Thick, focused tone with good midrange voicing?
