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Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by smperry, Jul 20, 2013.
Probably the last one to be made.
I actually liked the ergonomics of my Icon 6 over the LB76. Ended up selling my LB76 this winter. I think folks could get an LB order in Jan or Feb via phone. Wonder if anyone put one in the oven...
One of the nicest looking LBs I've seen!
A cool community interaction happened today.
Kiesel posted pics of a new Icon bass which they made for Endorser Anna Sentina (the pink Icon attached).
And then someone replied to the image and said that they actually now own her first two Endorser basses. An Xccelerator and a Vanquish. Both with Carvin Logos. (see attached pic).
I've always been a fan of that particular Xccelerator. Handsome bass.
Also, Kiesel posted a pretty sweet Osiris bass (see attached pic).
That pink is sweet!!
+1, I dig that quite a bit!
Elite 5 string on reverb. If it was a 34"scale, I would've bought it already.
Carvin 5 String "Elite" Model | William's Gear Locker | Reverb
This used Bromberg looks real nice, as well:
Carvin B25 - BRIAN BROMBERG SIGNATURE SERIES 5-STRING BASS 2012 Deep Honeyburst Quilted Maple | AudioGuy | Reverb
That extra inch and 1/4 is stretched from the nut to the saddles. People are mistaken to think that this makes a big deal...it doesn't. Neck profile and string spacing do. Besides, that bass has the old trussrod...yuck.
It does make a significant difference when alternating fretted to fretless in the same set. I'm not good enough to go from 35.5" fretted to 34" fretless seamlessly. I stick with 34" to keep muscle memory of only 34".
I do agree on the old truss rod though - that is a time bomb...
Fretless, I get the scale difference...never thought of that. That one makes sense.
I tried it before, just not good enough to wrap my head around seamlessly transitioning from 34-35.5 " scale. Tried it the other way too - 34" fretted to XB fretless, and didn't like it. I just stuck with 34" scale after that. Just made life, playing and muscle memory easier. Patiently waiting on my fretless IC6. Maybe 6 weeks into an 18-ish week wait...
Out of curiosity for if I ever decide to scope out a used Carvin, we can tell it's the old truss rod by that truss rod tool, yeah? What's the difference, and when did they switch to the "new" truss rod?
(My earliest Carvin is a 2014 and my Carvins/Kiesels all adjust with a regular allen wrench)
Pretty sure it was fully switched in 2006. The old one (of which requires the Gibson-esque wrench) has a socket nut, instead of an Allen nut. The old style has a wrench that goes around/on top of the nut, whereas the current one has the wrench going into it. Supposedly the old truss was rather flimsy, and easily broke with excessive torque. The current one is beefier.
If I can't tell which rod a bass has, I ask the seller to snap a picture under the truss rod cover. Never had seller refuse to do that.
I’ve owned both, and yes, the older ones suck. But they’re not deal breakers IMHO. I have an older Icon 6 fretless with the old style truss rod. The best thing to do is squirt some wd-40 in the area and let it work it’s way down the rod a little. After 10 minutes give the rod a little twist and it will usually move with no issues, and just be careful anytime you need to make an adjustment.
With the older truss rods you definitely don’t want to pay a premium, and after some shipping damage and dead electronics I got this particular Icon for under $400.
Thanks for the info, quite helpful!
I knew there were "older truss rods," but I wasn't sure what to look for or when they switched over. (I was actually a little nervous that they were still on the older version for my 2014/2015, as they updated to the carbon rods in 2015 only a couple months after my 2015 Icon.)
When they changed truss rods they also changed from Hipshot B bridge to Hipshot A, and changed from 9v electronics to 18v.
Also good to know as something to look for!
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