Ok...F# capable cabs!

JT plays thru nice F# cabs, i have played 5 string thru them, and i love em.

Yamaha SW118 1x18 cabinet. 500 watts program, 1000 watts peak.

you could get one for around 400 dollas

 

Yea the new house I moved into had a bass tech for Pearl Jam who is now working for Sony and stuff. He had a Conklin with a F#s and let me play it through 2x18 custom ones he made. omg it almost made me fall over lol.

 

Anyone know the weight of the Yamaha SW118?

Thanks.

LarryG

 

I have a datasheet on the Yamaha subs.

http://www.ofgb.org/reference/Music/Yamaha/Club Series Speakers.pdf

 

I used the Yamaha SW118 cab all night last night. My drummer bought a Godin bass and this cabinet for his amusement.

The SW118 is pretty big, and much more deep than tall or wide. It's pretty much square on the baffle board, and bottom ported. Surprisingly, the weight isn't nearly as much as the visual impression suggests and the cab appears manageable. I did not transport it, and am making that observation from moving it around on stage.

The 18" driver moves outward when a positive voltage is applied. I had to reverse the phasing of my Speakon-to-Phone adapater to get it correctly phased with my subs.

The SW118 is a nice performer in that it is loud and punchy. It also has a marked rolloff in the lower end, from about A on down. Low E on my MIM P is very noticeably weaker when compared to C and higher notes. The SW118 doesn't have the low end of my subs, but it is substantially louder.

Turning the crossover from 125 Hz to 7000 Hz reveals some high frequency coloration and nasal quality in the upper frequencies. IMO this is not a problem, as the SW118 is designed as a sub to be bi-amped and not run full range. The recommended crossover point is 90 Hz. The frequency response spec is 30 to 2,000 Hz.

My drummer paid $249 for the SW118 on closeout. If I were going to haul something this big (9.9 cubic feet) I would also consider a JBL 2245, an Eminence Delta Pro 15, or the TAD TL-16xx series for 5-string. The Eminence Sigma Pro 18 and Magnum 18HO are both acceptable for 4-string. These drivers all live in big cabinets, have the same SPL as SW118, and offer lower frequency extension. This is a big-ass cab to haul around.

 

How about the Bag End ELF system, doesn't that go down to 21Hz?

 

Bag End lists ELF-1 systems at 8Hz +/-3db.

 

The Yamaha is much louder than my subs (89 vs 96 SPL). That +7dB is seriously louder. I run a pair of Rockford RFR-2215 as 1x15 in 5.4 cubic feet. I didn't know about the Adire Maelstrom 18" drivers when I built my subs, so I used the Rockfords. The Maelstrom is about 95 SPL in the same cabinet size. The optimum tuning for both the Rockford and Maelstrom is 23 Hz... right in line with your low F#.

I can't abide cabinets any larger than what I have now (20 x 20 x 31 external), so that leaves out the JBL 2245, etc, for me. My next subs will be constructed using the Adire drivers. RFR-2215 are no longer in production, and the replacement drivers are even less efficient, so they are unacceptable for my needs.

To clarify, I really enjoyed playing the big Yamaha. It has plenty of noise and plenty of punch. My post above is a seat of the pants experience with using it for an evening. Since it belongs to my drummer, I can get it back again when I have some free time to put it on the test bench.

 

A couple of other cabs to look at:
Tech Soundworks ND118DCMT (18"+10"+tweeter=fullrange!)
Tech S ND115DCT (15+tweet)
Tech S ND410T
Tech S ND412T
FliteSound 18B
Peavey 810TVX

These are all low shooters. Except Peavey, they weigh less than the YamSW118. Interesting to me, anyway.

Edit: ooops, read the specs of the wrong Yam! Need to add Tech Soundworks ND212T and FliteSound123W, and also Acoustic Images, to that list.
If you can handle 5, 10 or 20 kgs more, there are a few from Peavey, Hartke and EBS.
But,,,,US residents, look inte FliteSound, europeans spend your first look at Tech!

 

IMO, the Flite specs are complete B.S. as they are *so* much better than all the competitors.

An owner of a Flite cab told me Flite uses off the shelf Eminence speakers that are available to the public... and I have all those Eminence speakers cataloged, and NONE will do the kind of performance claimed by Flite.

 

Seems you need to try one or two...don't you think?
Then you can change the IMO to IME! That's cool!

And I'd be much obliged to hear your personal findings. As I, thus far, only heard great reviews. No, alas, I haven't heard the boxes myself. Not even those low freq's travel over the Atlantic...

 

i was just reading about the adire maelstrom subwoofer driver. now that is medecine for a sub bass addict such as myself! i would be very curious to hear from an (unbiased) source how those perform. i read an add that states 105 dB SPL at 20 Hz in a 22" cube sealed box....

 

No.

 

I guess it all depends on ho woutrageous you feel like getting here. http://www.servodrive.com/servo/cb.shtml should do the trick. Its supposed to be flat to 14HZ and put out 114Db @ 16Hz. I'm not sure if you want to be around for that very long, but you know what the heck. Its a servo drive speaker!

 

Whoa! that servodrive sub looks awesome! How much do those cost? Probably alot.....