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OK Sadowsky owners, what do you think?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by tommixx, Aug 10, 2003.


  1. I currently have a Standard Quilted Caramel Swamp ash 4-string body with a Morado fingerboard on order with Roger. I have also gotten the passive option with his humcancelling JJ pickups and black hardware. So now my question, it is coming down to crunch time and I don't have much time left to make any changes. I am seriously considering changing my board to birdseye maple (thanks alot Jim S.!! your JJ is at the heart of this I suspect!!) and I am wondering what advice you guys have for me. I know the bass will sound great either way, BUT, I am torn to pieces over whether to change my initial order or not? There is just something about that birdseye on that color body...I'm also thinking of making the hardware gold whether I change the board or not. What do you guys think? NINO, I know you have the exact same bass as I have ordered, help me out here guys!!!!!

    Thanks,

    T :bawl: :confused: :bawl: :D
     
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  3. bikeplate

    bikeplate Supporting Member

    Jun 7, 2001
    Upstate NY
    Hi!

    I know we talked about this in a PM but if you've forgotten, I like your order. I prefer a morado board if it's going to be my only Sad. I'm fortunate to have 3 and they all have different boards(morado, ebony, maple). I just ordered a maple board vintage 5. I don't like the gold hardward idea. It's a bear to keep looking good. I prefer chrome for a vintage and black or chrome for a standard. It will certainly pit on you no matter how particular you may be! I had a caramel burst standard 4 with a morado board about a year back. It had a beautiful quilt top. I should have kept it but how many of these do I really need? My favorite is the Lake Placid PJ4 I currently own. It's a Vintage 4 with a morado board. It's ultimately your decision but you are asking for advice. This is mine!! I know whatever you decide, your bass will turn out awesome! His gear always shines above the rest!
    Good luck and post pics when you get it

    Rob
     
  4. j.s.basuki

    j.s.basuki Supporting Member

    May 14, 2000
    asia/australia
    My first favourite Sad is J/J with Alder body and Brazilian Rosewood, second is Ash with Ebony fretboard. Ash and Maple is the least prefered combination. For slapping Ash/Ebony is the best. Alder/Brazilian is good allround bass, while Ash/Maple just too much treble.
    But it's amatter of preference, the best is to try your self .
     
  5. jokerjkny

    jokerjkny

    Jan 19, 2002
    NY / NJ / PA
    as much as i love Sadowsky's, i find the maple on ash basses to be really brite. but lots of guys seem to prefer that, but not me. i like how the morado eases that snappy flava. bear in mind, i did get a maple/ash Vintage 5, but it'll be my slap/funk machine.

    btw, your bass sounds like it'll look alot like John Patitucci's sadowsky. except his has black hardware, which i'd recommend over the gold. i think it looks gaudy as hell, despite all the Jay-Z video's it shows up in. ;)

    btw, i'm sure Roger'll wait until you decide on something, so dont worry. just ruminate on your decision, and find something you know you'll be happy with. its alot of moolah, we're talkin' here.
     
  6. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    Personally, I'm not a big fan of Birdseyed boaeds. To me thay look dirty, like an oiled MusicMan maple board with lots of use. I recently had a Lakland 55-63 with a birdseye board & I couldn't look at the board.

    Gold, BLA. :) IMO, the bass will be too gaudy. Black, all the way.

    <img src="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=936032">
     
  7. Thanks to everyone...

    I'm leaning on sticking with my first choice which is usually the best anyway!! Surprisingly, I have had great luck with gold hardware over the years. All of the basses I have now have gold except my older Fenders. I take a great deal of time cleaning after I finish playing a gig or just messing around the studio or house and I think that goes a LOOOONG way in preserving the finish. Anyway great advice from everyone so far. The funny thing is when you look at the Saddy website on the artist page, most of the pics are of guys playing maple boards, go figure I guess. I must admit that I have been listening to Steely Dan's latest (highly recommend it by the way!!) "Everything Must Go" and Walter is playing bass again on all the tunes and his Sadowsky (Standard with maple board) sounds great!!! Very remiscent of that older Steely sound when Chuck Rainey and Will Lee were playing old Fenders. Very much a "Fender on Steroids" kinda vibe I think! Check it out if you can.

    Thanks a lot!!


    T
     
  8. bikeplate

    bikeplate Supporting Member

    Jun 7, 2001
    Upstate NY
    HI!

    That's the beauty of Roger's pre. Whatever you end up picking, it will sound like a dream. I'd go with your gut, whatever that is!! Best of luck

    Rob
     
  9. j.s.basuki

    j.s.basuki Supporting Member

    May 14, 2000
    asia/australia
    Why don't you ask Roger his opinion about Ebony fretboard, for me it does not need maintenance , and it will look the same or better over the time, just like Brazilian rose wood.
    Ebony has the treble in between Brazilian and Maple, but very tight.
    Here is the photograph of :
    Ash+quilt / Ebony
    Ash /Maple
    Alder / B rosewood.
    I even have to roll off the treble pot when popping the G string when its new.
    Fortunately the Tokyo Sadowsky has the treble cut.
     
  10. jokerjkny

    jokerjkny

    Jan 19, 2002
    NY / NJ / PA
    good lord, having that many Sadowsky's is just wrong! wrong, i tell you! :spit:

    that goes for you too BP! :spit: :D
     
  11. Tough call. I really wanted that hit-me-in the chest attack that maple and swamp ash give you. My bass has never been too bright and has incredible definition and clarity with punch.

    I played Nino's swamp ash morado J through different amps than I use; I played a Suhr swamp ash with RW board too. The morado seem to even out the tone with less midrange dip.

    I find my bass more 'exciting' to hear: more dramatic or dynamic (range) sounding. ...to my ear

    Anyway, this is all b.s.: we know you'll get another Sadowsky with the other fingerboard in a couple of years so you'll have the best of both worlds! ;)

    (That's why I got Brazilian RW on my Sadowsky alder PJ4.)
     
  12. CURSE YOU JIM!!!

    I had pretty much decided that I was going to stick with the Morado and Black hardware and now you post this????? AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!! YOUR Jazz is THE ONE that has me in this tizzy to begin with!!

    The funny thing is I don't even have the first one and I'm already thinking about a '59 Sunburst 4 or 5 JJ in Alder with a Rosewood or Morado board and that is more or less why I was thinking of putting birdseye maple on this one for slapping and fingered funk, I LOVE that percussive punchy attack you are talking about and the clarity with it?? Come on, I might just HAVE to do it........


    Thanks,

    T
     
  13. Sorry to torture you.

    I swear, I think we all suffer from the same thought process and disease!;)
     
  14. Tommixx,

    No matter which options you choose you have no wrong choice or decision. Either way you'll should be supremely happy with the bass. :)
     
  15. snailplow

    snailplow Leon Phelps Wanna Be

    I hope I don't offend anybody by saying this,since this is just my personal opinion.
    I think Roger makes GREAT bass guitars,but I still can't help but to think that he charges too much for them.
    I'm the penny pincher type musician,who doesn't have alot of money to spend on gear,so I just ordered a custom G&L L-2000.Natural Satin Swamp Ash body,#8 jazz maple neck,and ebony fretboard.
    This bass cost me $1019 new,tax and all,out the door,and that's with a hardshell case.
    I've played about 7 or 8 Sadowskys in my life,and while they WERE great basses,I couldn't be convinced by them enough to shell out the amount of dough required to own one.I felt the same way about all the Mike Lull basses that I've played.To each is his own I guess.
    *Puts on fire proof suit*
     
  16. bikeplate

    bikeplate Supporting Member

    Jun 7, 2001
    Upstate NY
    HI!

    I understand your statement. I, on the other hand, wouldn't go to a gig w/o a Sadowsky in my gigbag. No chance!! I've owned everything over the last 4 years. I've tried them all. I'm a pro who does about 150 gigs a year and what a bass can do live on stage is what counts for me. The easiest to dial in, best sounding pre on earth. The best fret work, attention to detail, classic look and tone, punch for days!! The best thing about Roger's gear is that once you get one, your G.A.S goes away!(except for more Sadowsky's) I felt the same way a few years back until I found one used in San Diego. I felt like I'd take a chance on it. I've had 8 since and presently own 3 with one on order!!

    If you're into the original jazzbass vibe but want the modern technology and punch, there is no other bass to consider. I had a Lull artist deal and no longer own the bass. Roger pays no one to play his gear. Actually, he doesn't discount a thing. His instruments speak for themselves.

    I'm glad your happy with you new bass. They are nice pieces. This, of course, is my opinion!!:D

    Rob
     
  17. Gee Rob, I hate to burst your bubble but Roger pays me handsomely to play his basses and guitars. Best endorsement deal I could land!









    (.....oh, gee, that was a nice dream)
     
  18. Actually, there is no need for the flame suit, I asked for your opinion no matter what it is! You bring a fairly common sentiment to the discussion and a valid one at that. There are a LOT of people that agree with you wholeheartedly!! At one point in my life I may have actually agreed with it...However, I am at a stage in my life where price is not really a determining factor. I don't mean to imply that I am rich, I will just say that I can afford to pay Roger's asking price and thank him for it....

    I don't think that anyone who buys Roger's instruments is REALLY concerned about what they pay for them. I also realize that everyone who buys Roger's instruments is not independently wealthy, just willing to part with the asking price of his instruments.

    In my own case for instance, I am a professional recording engineer and a bass player for the last 23 plus years. I have bought, sold, or currently own a LOT of basses and guitars. My family was in the retail music business from the time I was 5 years old. I started appraising, buying, and/or trading MI when I was 14 and have been pretty much ever since. Believe me when I tell you, I have played everything out there and I have spent an enormous amount of time, effort and money chasing the Grail.

    Is this the Grail? I don't know! But I do know that the Sadowsky is without question the BEST preamp I have ever used and from what I know the Sadowsky may well be one of the greatest basses ever made...I am willing to INVEST a little more time, effort, and money in my quest...I invite anyone interested to join me....

    Thanks for all the comments guys!! I appreciate them all!

    T
     
  19. snailplow

    snailplow Leon Phelps Wanna Be

    That's cool if it works for you Tommixx,I hope you enjoy your new bass to the fullest.
    For me personally,if I had $2500 to spend on gear,I'd get a more affordable bass,and still have cash left over to buy other needed or wanted musical items.
    I'm not trying to knock Roger's expertise.I think his instruments are excellently crafted,and play and sound awesome,but they're not to the point to charge what he wants for them.I'm sorry,I just can't justify it.