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Okay moving from Eden To Aguilar..which cabs???

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by SoyBase, Nov 6, 2002.


  1. SoyBase

    SoyBase

    Jul 1, 2001
    Atlanta, Ga
    Alright, I've decided to make the switch...
    Right now I've got an Eden D410xlt and a D115xlt. Both 8 ohms. I've noticed that the 15 paired with the 410 is WEAK so I've decided to sell them off and buy Aguilar cabs.
    Here is my question/problem.
    1. I deal with volume challenged guitar players. I have an Aguilar DB750 and have the gain and master set at 12 o'clock and am doing alright. And yes, I've tried getting them to turn down, but "they cant get their tone that way"...whatever
    2. I want something smaller and lighter in weight if at all possible.

    Now here is what I'm thinking...Either an Aguilar GS410 and a GS210 so that I'll have a smaller cab for acoustic gigs, etc.
    OR
    A GS212 and a GS210.
    both in 4 ohms.

    So anyone have experience with either of these set ups? Remember, I need volume, but I also love the clarity of the Edens, but the upper mids are getting to be annoying.

    Any other cab suggestions would be great as well.
    Thanks
    Tommy
     
  2. vanselus

    vanselus

    Sep 20, 2000
    Boulder, CO
    None
    If you're looking for clarity i'd go the 410/210 route - you'll get plenty of punch and lots of low too! However you won't get the warmth and fatness of the 212.

    Personally i'd go the 212/210 route, but if I was competing with a wall of guitars? Probably 410/115 or 210/410.

    But that's me...
     
  3. Jon Burnet

    Jon Burnet

    Jan 21, 2001
    Memphis, TN

    what...what is that.... i AGREE?/? NOOOOO can't be! lol
     
  4. vanselus

    vanselus

    Sep 20, 2000
    Boulder, CO
    None
    oh no! you should be SCARED, very SCARED!
     
  5. I agree. Go with the 210/212 route @ 4 ohms (IF your amp can handle the load!) You won't believe the difference in volume!
     
  6. SoyBase

    SoyBase

    Jul 1, 2001
    Atlanta, Ga
    Well, the DB750 is stable to 2 ohms at 975 watts. I think if thats not enough volume then im up sh!t creek without a paddle...

    Anyone else for the 410 and 210? The 212 would also be a few bucks cheaper, which is also nice.
     
  7. Stachio

    Stachio Supporting Member

    Jan 29, 2002
    Atlanta
    What's up Soy

    You should ask Dave Siff about the Aggie 210 212 combo. He seems to be pretty happy about it.
    The answer to all your questions can be answered within the Atlanta city limits :) .

    When's the next time you guys play around hyah ?
     
  8. SoyBase

    SoyBase

    Jul 1, 2001
    Atlanta, Ga
    Actually, we'll be playing "One Love" in Athens next saturday Stachio...I'll ask Mr. Siff. Thanks for the info!
    When are you guys playing next?

    Tommy
     
  9. Stachio

    Stachio Supporting Member

    Jan 29, 2002
    Atlanta
    Drats...This weekend is devoted to recording.
    We don't have any new shows coming up as I have delegated that responsibility to the guitarist for a while. Maybe you could say that was a bad move on my part.
     
  10. Eric Moesle

    Eric Moesle Supporting Member

    Sep 21, 2001
    Columbus OH
    I have a GS410 and a GS115, and they have no problem holding their own against overly-loud guitarists.

    Those cabs aren't heavy at all - surprisingly light . . .
     
  11. narud

    narud Supporting Member

    Mar 15, 2001
    santa maria,california
    if your going to do the 410/210 route with a db750 remember to get a 4ohm 410 and an 8 ohm 210.
     
  12. Eric Moesle

    Eric Moesle Supporting Member

    Sep 21, 2001
    Columbus OH
    The Aggie 4x10 only comes in a 4 ohm model, as far as I know . . .
     
  13. Wxp4759cb

    Wxp4759cb

    Nov 23, 2000
    Kansas City, MO
    2x12 + 2x10 or 2x12 + 4x10.

    The 2x12s sound REALLY good. They're also pretty loud.
     
  14. vanselus

    vanselus

    Sep 20, 2000
    Boulder, CO
    None
    would it be possible to do

    210
    112
    112

    ?
     
  15. I gave this info to Soybase in a PM but I'll post it here in case anyone else is interested. I'm using the Aguilar 2x10 and 2x12, both 8-ohm cabs, with an SWR SM-900. Very loud, clean, clear and punchy. I play with (and against!) a hard-hitting drummer, and a guitarist using a 100-watt Line 6 2x12 combo. I've got no problem being heard, with the gain on my amp at about 6 1/2 and the master volume at about 2.
     
  16. jerry

    jerry Doesn't know BDO Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 13, 1999
    Hawaii
    The 2/12 & 2/10 would just crush!
     
  17. bassmonkeee

    bassmonkeee Supporting Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Decatur, GA
    You could always do what I wanted to do--Okay, it might seem crazy, but why not 4 GS112 cabs?

    You get portable and light--each one only weighs 40lbs, and you have a bunch of different options for configuration. And, best of all, you will unleash the full power of the battle sta---erm....DB750 at 2ohms--975Watts!

    You know I'm right. :D

    You should have heard when I hooked my DB750 up to Dave's GS212 with both of my GS112s. And, that was only at 2.67 ohms. I'm pretty sure you could crack a rib with the air pressure it created.

    Plus--how cool would 4 1x12 cabs look on stage? ;)
     
  18. bassboat

    bassboat

    Sep 27, 2001

    I have one in 8 ohms, they do offer both ohmage.
     
  19. vanselus

    vanselus

    Sep 20, 2000
    Boulder, CO
    None
    I was thinking that a 210 would add a lot of punch to the 2x112's though - if the 112's are 8 ohms & the 210 is 4, then it's balanced, right?
     
  20. jokerjkny

    jokerjkny

    Jan 19, 2002
    NY / NJ / PA
    tho, Van's pretty on the money, i'll just add..

    you're thinking the 1x15 is weak, cause you prolly cant feel it as well as the more punchie 4x10 cab. doesnt cut or punch thru the dense mix you got onstage.

    a dual 2x10 / 4x10 setup would definitely kick some muthabutt. punchie enough in the chest to send your guitarboyz across the room. coherent and easily felt.

    the 2x12, on the other hand, might suffer from the same problem as the 1x15... juuuuuuuuuuuuust might. tho, its definitely punchier than the 15", they're not nearly as punchie as the 10"s in your 4x10 cab.

    also keep in mind the 4x10 weighs 98 lbs. while Aggie's 2x12 weighs only 70 lbs. another thing to keep in mind.

    IMHO, Aguilar amps sound best with Aguilar cabs.