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old strings - muddy tone?

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by dadodetres, Jan 23, 2006.


  1. dadodetres

    dadodetres

    Dec 19, 2004
    URUGUAY
    hi!

    i was wondering, when strings go OLD, do they lose low end?

    cause i removed my 0.40 form my lakland and installed 0.45, some weeks latter i changed back for the old 0.40`s and not only they sounded a LOT LESS bright, but also now im noticing that the low end is not tight but VERY muddy. I also done some setup to my bass, but i want to know if the problem might be the old strings.....

    thanks for any input!
     
  2. Tony G

    Tony G

    Jan 20, 2006
    NY
    I don't know about most people here, but I never put old strings back on after they have been played and taken off. I consider them garbage at that point. Old strings suck. Get some new ones and you should be good again.
     
  3. dadodetres

    dadodetres

    Dec 19, 2004
    URUGUAY

    the thing is that im not in a band right now, nor have any plan of giging or recording soon, at least for a couple of months. Then ill put some new strings. Unless this is the problem im facing.
     
  4. Tony G

    Tony G

    Jan 20, 2006
    NY
    a good new set of fresh strings will make your bass sing. My point was that once you put a set on your bass, play them for a while, then take them off, they are no longer going to sound good on your bass if you put them back on. They start to corrode, their tension is all thrown off by being tight then relaxed. They really are just garbage. If you are looking for a string that will last a really long time and still sound good, I recommend the dean markley Blue steels. they seem to last forever.
     
  5. ganga

    ganga

    Jul 14, 2005
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145937

    Others don't. :)
     
  6. BurningSkies

    BurningSkies CRAZY BALDHEAD

    Feb 20, 2005
    Seweracuse, NY
    Read the denatured alcohol thread...

    ...and yes, you do lose both high end and good low end with old strings. They get muddy and undefined because of all the oil, grime and skin muck that sits between the windings. They also lose some of their liveliness and definition due to metal fatigue, as the metal has been stretched under tension for a long period of time and loses its elasticity.
     
  7. HELLonWHEELS

    HELLonWHEELS

    Jun 13, 2005
    Los Angeles
    i personnaly hate the sound of new new strings to me it sound best the next week once they are broken in a bit.
     
  8. Tony G

    Tony G

    Jan 20, 2006
    NY

    Thats cool. I would send my old bass strings if it wasn't for the fact that they want them shipped over seas.... Its not worth the postage for one or two sets. But if someone was to get a whole box together, then maybe.

    However, I still consider them garbage.
     
  9. nad

    nad 60 Cycle Humdinger

    Sep 22, 2005
    I hate the sound of new strings. Just thought I'd toss that out there. :)
     
  10. I hate playing with dead strings. It sounds like I have a huge pillow on my strings and it just feels and smells nasty. Ick.
     
  11. Philbiker

    Philbiker Pat's the best!

    Dec 28, 2000
    Northern Virginia, USA
    No. Old strings sound best, I measure string longevity in years, sometimes decades on my basses. Just wash your hands before playing and they can last a long, long time.
     
  12. I have a really old set of TI Flats (circa 2000). They were on my P bass since new, and recently moved to my J fretless.

    I recorded them when new, then again before moving them off the P-bass. What I notice the most is a decided lack of sustain, and a ka-chink "woody" sound.

    It is looking like ancient TI Flats on a fretless P might be awfully close to emulating an upright bass.
     
  13. dougjwray

    dougjwray

    Jul 20, 2005
    In 1996 I put a set of GHS Precision Flatwounds on my Univox '70s P-Bass copy, and they're really starting to sound good now!
    But-- an important point: Roundwounds suck when they've been on for a long time.
     
  14. canopener

    canopener

    Sep 15, 2003
    Isle of Lucy
    I've got set of Chromes, Fender Flats, and LaBella DTF that get a rotation every few months.
     
  15. R.Lee

    R.Lee

    Nov 12, 2005
    oHIo
    I always thought the closest to Double bass I could come was an ancient set of tape wounds and a P fretless.

    As for old strings one of my basses has the strings from the 80's on it still.

    If they don't break I don't replace them.
     
  16. I had this set of TI superalloys on for 5 months and they started to sound dead and then I really liked them. But too bad the D string had a slight bow in it, so I needed to change strings.
     
  17. I like the sound of slightly old strings, but my frets end up eating grooves in them then I have to get new ones. But on my fretless I've had the same stings for 10 years now.
     
  18. dadodetres

    dadodetres

    Dec 19, 2004
    URUGUAY
    following your advice i put a new set uf GHS 0.40`s.

    helped but very little in the low end. a lot in the brightness :ninja:
     
  19. Yeah, me too. Waaay too metallic and bright. Flats aren't like that though; good right out of the box. :D
     
  20. Since many of you guys talking about the life of the strings.

    I wonder if there is an instruction how to best taken care of strings once they are strung to maintain their best quality.

    There suppose to be 2 different situation.
    -one that you use daily and ...
    -one that you stored for months

    Thanks,
    Chalie