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Older German basses

Discussion in 'Basses [DB]' started by mlz77096, Mar 27, 2013.


  1. mlz77096

    mlz77096

    Oct 16, 2007
    Houston, TX
    Did any of the older German or Czech basses not have the outside ribs? I'm looking at a bass that has been identified as Czech or German probably over 100 yrs, carved. The pictures I have, which I couldn't figure out how to post, show no outside ribs. Comments anyone.
     
  2. Post the pics to flicker or similar and give us a link.
     
  3. Posting photos on Ken Smith's forum wouldn't hurt.
     
  4. mlz77096

    mlz77096

    Oct 16, 2007
    Houston, TX
    Hopefully two pictures were uploaded
     

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  5. mlz77096

    mlz77096

    Oct 16, 2007
    Houston, TX
    There's the third picture I have. Hopefully these are some help.
     

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  6. mlz77096

    mlz77096

    Oct 16, 2007
    Houston, TX
    Additional info. The bass has a 40" string length and is almost the body size of my 3/4 which is a bit on the small size. I'd call this a small 3/4 or large 5/8 depending on how one judges basses.
     
  7. Greg Clinkingbeard

    Greg Clinkingbeard

    Apr 4, 2005
    Kansas City area
    KC Strings
    I believe you are referring to the lack of narrow strips reinforcing the top and back. These are called outside linings. If you look inside your bass you will see the inside linings. Ribs are the sides of the bass.
    Although outside linings are very common on germanic basses, many (mine included) don't have them. There is a school of thought that they are unnecessary and may actually harm the sound.
     
  8. mlz77096

    mlz77096

    Oct 16, 2007
    Houston, TX
    You know exactly what I am referring to although I called it by the wrong name. Thanks.
     
  9. uprightben

    uprightben

    Nov 3, 2006
    Boone, NC
    looks Czeck/German to me
     
  10. And less than 100 years old, considering the round back.
     
  11. Steve Swan

    Steve Swan

    Oct 12, 2004
    Burlingame, California
    Retailer: Shen, Sun, older European
    I like the look of the low, gentle arching on this one.
     
  12. Ron Plichta

    Ron Plichta

    May 19, 2007
    Fairfax, VA
    My German/Czech bass has a round back. Approximately when did round backs appear?
     
  13. I'm no expert, but the experts tell me roundbacks are more of a 20th Century thing than a 19th Century thing.
     
  14. Ron Plichta

    Ron Plichta

    May 19, 2007
    Fairfax, VA
    Thanks. Mine was appraised as being mid-20th Century, so that falls in line with your comment. I was trying to get a beter appreciation for the German bass' timelines, so to speak.
     
  15. Ask Ken Smith. I posted photos to his site, and he responded with an essay.
     
  16. mlz77096

    mlz77096

    Oct 16, 2007
    Houston, TX
    Here's pics of the scroll and tuners. I don't think I've ever seen old hat pegs that were not ebony. There look red. I don't know anything about how necks should fit, but I know that's a picture people usually want and here it is. I'm told the neck has never had repairs. There are repairs on the top the bass.
    It has been checked by a luthier in the past, but I'm trying to independently gather knowledge. Keep the comments coming.
     
  17. mlz77096

    mlz77096

    Oct 16, 2007
    Houston, TX
    Ok, here the pics, I hope.
     

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  18. ...and should be again before you get serious about this bass.

    The pegs don't look to be original to the bass or to the machines. A lot of those pegs seemed to be made from whatever was handy and cheap. The pegs on one of mine could be rosewood, and on another could be pine painted black. I'd guess the original pegs crumbled or otherwise failed, and somebody turned replacements.

    Again, I'm far from an expert, but my best guess is Bohemian (Czech) and made between the World Wars.
     
  19. Well, I also was confused by your statement. Greg was helping you. If he knew "exactly what" you were "referring to," he wouldn't have helped you by giving you the correct terms. You should be apologetic, not scolding.
     
  20. Eric Hochberg

    Eric Hochberg

    Jul 7, 2004
    Chicago
    Man, you are sure reading this the wrong way...the OP is thanking Greg...
     

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