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Olive G and D

Discussion in 'Strings [DB]' started by bassphase, Sep 26, 2004.


  1. bassphase

    bassphase Supporting Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    San Francico Bay Area
    Hi

    I just swapped out the Spriocore weich G and orchestra D for an Oliv G and D on my new Wan Bernadel. WOW!! These things kill. So sweet----and of course the Spirocores still provide the growl on the bottom although I'm considering maybe a Dominant A to make the transition a little smoother. Anybody?

    Oh, and what are those little felt washers on the Olives for???


    bob
     
  2. Humberto

    Humberto Supporting Member

    I'm thinking of trying the Oliv G & D with Pirastro Obligato A & E. I'll let you know how the A & E work.

    Question: did you have to change your set-up at all for the Olivs?
     
  3. Francois Blais

    Francois Blais Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 1999
    Québec, Canada
    They protect the tailpiece wood from the metal ball pull.
    All Pirastro strings come with felt rings.
     
  4. bassphase

    bassphase Supporting Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    San Francico Bay Area

    No---and I was kind of expecting too. The nut slots were wide enough and the low string height is fine left as it was. There's noticeably less tension than the Spirocores which is a nice side benefit. Volume is very close too.



    bob
     
  5. bassphase

    bassphase Supporting Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    San Francico Bay Area

    It would seem like they might affect the tone. Do I have to use them? Are Pirastro ball ends more destructive than say, spirocores?


    bob
     
  6. Adrian Cho

    Adrian Cho Supporting Member

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ottawa, Canada
    I thought it was accepted that the felt washers do make a slight difference to the tone - especially pizzicato.

    A couple of guys here in town use Olivs on the top and Obligatos on the bottom. I don't like Obligatos on the bottom myself.
     
  7. Humberto

    Humberto Supporting Member

    Adrian, what do you like for the A & E ?

    I've tried the Pirastro with & without the felt and I think it makes little difference, at least on my bass, if anything I think it damps the sound, but not by much.

    Glad to hear I shouldn't have to adjust my bridge for the Olives.
     
  8. Adrian Cho

    Adrian Cho Supporting Member

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ottawa, Canada
    Well previously I used Eudoxas. However I just changed basses and I am finding this bass needs higher tension strings so I'm experimenting with different strings for the E and possibly the A. I am actually no longer using an Oliv G but am now using a Chorda G which is Pirastro's unwound gut G. Works very nicely with the Oliv D.
     
  9. bassphase

    bassphase Supporting Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    San Francico Bay Area
    OK

    After a week I don't like the Oliv D that much anymore. Too ill defined and thumpy. I still Love the Oliv G. I wish the timbre of the G and D were the same but they really aren't, at least on my bass. I tried a Dominant D and it sounds too much like a Spirocore--a little less sustain and tension and a bit darker but basically the same timbre. I want something to match or at least compliment the Oliv G. I don't know where to start--probably another wrapped gut string but this is getting fairly unpredictable (and expensive). The idea is to get a sweet gut sound on the higher strings and transition smoothly to the growly sustain of my Spiro E.

    Any suggestions??

    Oh, one more thing--pizz only.


    bob
     
  10. Francois Blais

    Francois Blais Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 1999
    Québec, Canada
    I'd suggest an Original Flexocor D.
    I think it'd fit nicely with an Olive G.
     
  11. bassphase

    bassphase Supporting Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    San Francico Bay Area

    But how about tension? Aren't the original Flexocores fairly high tension? Probably much more than the Oliv. How about a Pirastro Pizz D?



    bob
     
  12. bassphase

    bassphase Supporting Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    San Francico Bay Area
    I think I solved my string dilemma (sort of). I put on a Pirastro Pizzicato D string to go with the Oliv G and the Spiro E and A. This combination is sweet in the upper registers with a nice string tension and the Spiro E an A growl nicely and have good definition. The transition from string to string is very smooth with no jarring timbre shifts. The problem is the Pizzicato feels like a f*#king wood rasp! I took some 000 steel wool to it (which gave it a strange orange cast for some reason) and it helped a great deal.


    Anybody want to buy a 1 week old untrimmed Oliv D for cheap?

    Oh, I thought I saw someone mention a spell checker in a post---where is it? I type very bdlyy badnly bawdy...

    bob