Open season on my pedal board order.

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by thedovewarlord, Jul 26, 2021.


  1. thedovewarlord

    thedovewarlord

    Dec 29, 2010
    NY
    Experimenting left and right and in between, I tried many different options, but I am not totally satisfied and always looking to change things up, get different sounds. This inspires me. So just looking for input, suggestions, advice, and of course jeers and jests also welcome so have at it TB people.

    A few quick notes, I'm looking to add a compressor (maybe the Keely Bassist but I dont know what a hard knee is vs the Comp pro). My guess it will go in slot 10 before my delays and echoes, reverb. I also want to put the Night Owl Edison tube preamp further down the chain. I like to stack effects so use your imagination.

    Here's my next order Im thinking....

    1. Precision Bass (Chrome Flats, I generally play with pick, w/some pizzacato here and there)
    2. Korg mini tuner
    3. Source Audio Spectrum (to dual expression pedal)
    4. Keeley Dark Side - multi-effects, but I mainly set it to Rotary (to dual expression pedal)
    5. Darkglass Duality Fuzz
    6. Keeley Seafoam Chorus
    7. MXR Flanger
    8. Night Owl Edison (tube preamp)
    9. Source Audio Nemesis Delay
    10. (Compressor such as the Keeley Bassist here)
    11. MXR Carbon Copy Analog Delay
    12. Earthquaker Devices Afterneath (crazy reverb)
    13. GK 700RBii Amp input
    14. effect loop -- Earthquaker Devices Nightwire (harmonic tremolo)
    15. effect loop -- Catalinbread Echorec (multi rythmic delay)
    16. Aguilar DB412 cab
    In the bullpen, I have an EHX Microsynth, (big silver black red) Big Muff, Almighty Bass, Ampeg Liquify Chorus, MXR Analog Chorus and a few others.

    Love to hear back any ideas. Thanks everyone.
     
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  2. Adienn7

    Adienn7

    Jan 26, 2007
    Volume pedal, octaves, filter, Comp, fuzz, Flanger, phaser, Drive, Chorus, Delay Reverb, preamp/eq, limiter, tuner.

    here's the reason.. very so often you need gain make up.. because the longer the change the more the signal falls.. so buffers eq boost are better distributed between destructive sounds and mud effects

    you can put anything anywhere as long as you got a gain leveler close in chain..
     
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  3. thedovewarlord

    thedovewarlord

    Dec 29, 2010
    NY
    Im thinking of putting the Edison at then end, it's basically a clean boost, but adds a bitt of roundness/warmth. Is that what you mean?
     
  4. Adienn7

    Adienn7

    Jan 26, 2007
    sounds fine.. but what I'm saying.. every few pedals you need a buffer.. so the middle of the chain and the end..
     
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  5. thedovewarlord

    thedovewarlord

    Dec 29, 2010
    NY
  6. Adienn7

    Adienn7

    Jan 26, 2007
    and the only way to tell if it'll work is to hook it all up.. flat cables are nice.. and what board are you using..
     
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  7. thedovewarlord

    thedovewarlord

    Dec 29, 2010
    NY
    Just a nudge, any other feedback possibly? Understand if this is a tired subject, though I tried it a different way see if anyone had thoughts to my pedals selection or maybe some other things try. Just to be clear I'm not asking for the "correct" order since that is a bit of a trigger (like "what's the best size speaker?" threads that get slaughtered)
     
  8. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    No wrong answer. What sounds good to you is the right way.
    My trial and error usually starts with tuner-compression-preamp (if using one)-dirt-modulation-delay/reverb.

    Tuner is tricky because some tuners have buffer and some pedals (fuzz) don't like to be after a buffer. But some let you disable the buffer. I like the tuner straight from the bass or guitar. Some people run compression early some late. I like my bass levelled/limited before any color is added. I don't always use dirt. But the world is a better place when a fuzz is followed by an octaver or chorus or flanger. Delay and reverb (yeah, I know they aren't the same thing) sound better to me after processing although you can get some cool sounds delaying into a fuzz or other effect. Have fun. Isolated power supply is a must. Good cables like EBS or Rattlesnake make a difference in that they don't add noise and they don't mysteriously stop working after sound check. Good luck.
     
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  9. thedovewarlord

    thedovewarlord

    Dec 29, 2010
    NY
    Good stuff @Killing Floor. Thanks. I have a dedicated power supply from Walrus.

    I tweaked the order a little bit
    1. Precision Bass (Chrome Flats, I generally play with pick, w/some pizzacato here and there)
    2. Korg mini tuner
    3. Source Audio Spectrum (to dual expression pedal)
    4. Keeley Dark Side - multi-effects, but I mainly set it to Rotary (to dual expression pedal)
    5. Darkglass Duality Fuzz
    6. Keeley Seafoam Chorus
    7. MXR Flanger
    8. EQ Pedal (7 band, brand TBD)
    9. Night Owl Edison (tube preamp)
    10. (Compressor such as the Keeley Bassist here)
    11. Source Audio Nemesis Delay
    12. MXR Carbon Copy Analog Delay
    13. Earthquaker Devices Afterneath (crazy reverb)
    14. GK 700RBii Amp input
    15. effect loop -- Earthquaker Devices Nightwire (harmonic tremolo)
    16. effect loop -- Catalinbread Echorec (multi rythmic delay)
    17. Aguilar DB412 cab
    I'm starting to think the keeley bassist is the compressor I'm choosing, might put an EQ pedal before my preamp.
     
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  10. I’ve swapped back and forth from rounds to flats with my p bass. I really like the sound and feel of Chromes, but by far roundwounds played better with effects pedals.

    So I now have two p basses, one with flats for that old school thump, and one with rounds for more modern sounds and effects pedals. (I just dial my tone knob back or use my Nordy mute on the round wound bass if I need both old school thump AND effects at a gig).

    I’d recommend trying out round wounds just to see how much more they open up your effects. If you don’t like it you can just slap the Chromes back on!

    edit to add: if you want a tone enhancing compressor, you may find it works well where you placed it. If you want a limiting compressor, like the Keeley, I’d recommend trying it at the very end of your chain. I use the Keeley to tame volume spikes and even out my signal between dry and engaged effects so sound guys don’t have to stress when I turn any pedal off/on. My Keeley is last in line, before my always on preamp/DI pedal.
     
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  11. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    This. I have one bass with Chromes, for when "that sound" is the only thing that will do. The rest wear rounds for this very reason.
     
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  12. thedovewarlord

    thedovewarlord

    Dec 29, 2010
    NY
    I experiment with strings often, I have a bass with rounds. Overall, I prefer flats over rounds even with pedals. I total agree rounds do sounds different on effects, they kill it with chorus and do sound richer with fuzz/distortions. That said, good advice.


    My goal of the compressor is to just even things out, give a bit more professional sound. I dont slap and not looking for any change in tone. So taming spikes is what I am shooting for. I was thinking of putting it before my delays so the compressor doesn't effect the repeats or wash, I like them to be a bit set back vs my dry signal if that makes sense. What do you think @SLO Surfer ?
     
  13. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    Very cool. There is no wrong way. It’s not car parts. It’s personal preference for orders.
    Nice call on the Walrus supply. The 120V outlet is a great feature if you ever have a big preamp or a board power amp or some funky cool pedal. It’s a very well designed supply and it’s dead quiet.
     
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  14. thedovewarlord

    thedovewarlord

    Dec 29, 2010
    NY
    Gotcha. It will be all up to my ears, but while I wait to purchase it's fun to theorize and also talk about different results. I think the first place I'll start is at the very end because it's the easies to do. Then I guess trying each effect and combinations and see where it lands. My board is DIY, one long plank of plywood, exact length of a bass guitar so I use a gig bag to transport it. I painted the plank and drill holes and use locking zip ties, so nothing is permanent and have plenty of space unlike the pro boards which cost more than an average pedal.
     
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  15. thedovewarlord

    thedovewarlord

    Dec 29, 2010
    NY
    here's an older shot of my board from 2019, give you an idea of what it looks like. Besides different pedals and order, I've made my cables neater and easier to setup and pack up. Takes a few minutes to setup, and as I mentioned I had an unused gigbag, so I cut the board to length so it fits just right. The pockets are for AC extension cables and my expression pedal, spare patch cables etc.

    pedalboard_090619.jpg

    That's the board I am using @Adienn7 , it's just a plank of plywood. My friend at the office had this piece of scrapwood. I was like, "can I have this?". It was perfect, just trimmed it off to fit in the bag.
     
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  16. Adienn7

    Adienn7

    Jan 26, 2007
    don't forget to mount the power supply
     
  17. thedovewarlord

    thedovewarlord

    Dec 29, 2010
    NY
    Good idea. For portability I've kept it unattached and store in the pocket of the gig bag, if I add another so I have more outputs I will attach them both to a similar board.
     
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