I'm looking to upgrade my rig, and was planning on saving for an avatar 4x10 cab (i've got an avatar 2x12 right now with a hartke 4x10 that sounds crappy and needs to be upgraded). I stumbled across a Yorkville 4x10 that can handle 600 watts. It's used, but less than half the price of the avatar. Does anyone have any insight on yorkville cabs?
No. It's about an hour away from me, I just wanted to get a little input to see if it was worth driving to check out.
Yeah, that's a little bit of a drive just to try something out. I've never tried the Yorkville 4x10 or any Avatar cabs, but I do really like the York 15 cab. I tried quite a few different 15's and even without cost being a factor, the Yorkville was the best for me. Sounds like you can stand to save quite a bit of money. Maybe you could pick it up and then sell it again for the same cost in case you don't like it.
That's a very good point. It seems that this cab has been discontinued, does anyone know roughly what the MSRP would be for an item like this? I'm trying to figure out how good of a deal I'd be getting, but can't find any prices online.
The Yorkville 4x10 is a good cabinet and built well. Lots of guys in Canada use them as they are made here. They typically cost less than the high end cabinets but are almost as good. I don't know the price of that model. I'd phone the guy and get a description of its condition and how much he's asking, then decide if you want to try it. If it's in good shape (all speakerts working fine) and the price is affordable, ask again. They're definitely worth getting if you can get a good deal.
He's asking for 200$, which seems to be a steal. I think I'm going to see if I can check it out tomorrow.
It's definitely worth an hour drive to check out. In my experience, Yorkville cabs tend to be middy, a bit honky. But YMMV...
Thtt's a great deal if it is in good shape. Used here (Canada) I've seen them anywhere from $350 to $499 (CDN). Yorkville makes great gear.
Yeah shoot $200 US is like $100 Canadian now, So there you go, carry your bucks with you and drag it home unless it is all BTS. If all else fails you can take it to Windsor and sell it at a bar for $399 Canadian and pocket the difference. I used to live in Detroit, just trying to be funny. $200 for a 410 is good price but make sure you can power it, hit it hard and make sure the speakers are good. BOB
That's my experience with the 15" I have too, but I think that's why I like it so much. It's the most aggressive 15 I played when I was trying stuff out.
Yeah, it's always turned me off them in the store, I've never played one in a band setting before, but after reading your post, it occurred to me that this might be a really good thing. My main experience with Yorkville is a little Traynor combo that I've had since about 1985 or 86, that I've played with a high school metal band, High School Band, two years of Jazz at university, several months in a gigging country band, and various jams for the next 20 years or so. It's stood up very well in all those situations, so I'm a big fan of Yorkville/Traynor as far as value goes. The combo has always been a bit middy too, but I never cared as it was just a combo. It never occurred to me that this may be the quality that allowed it to be so versatile, from band practice to gigging with a drummer, without a lot of watts to back it up. Maybe that's the truth about the "Traynor Watts" legend ("there are watts, and then there are Traynor watts"). Their current cabs are beats though - when I was cab shopping a few years back, I was trying to find a cab to match up with a used Peavey head that I had, both wattage and impedance, and I went straight to Yorkville first, but all their 410s were like 600 watts at 8 Ohms!! Way overpowered for any head I will likely ever own.
I have heard Yorkville 4x10's and the 1x15's. A bass player around here uses them win his rig for live shows. They sound awesome!! I have the new 4x10, 1x15, and I think they may be the same, other than they have the name Traynor on them. I run a GK 1001 through them and get a tone that I would not change!! The cabs were a good price ane the warranty is great. I guess buying used the warranty is over, but I would for sure check the cab out. $200 is really a good way to start a rig, and IMHO you can't go wrong with Yorkville/Traynor. They are the same company, in case some weren't sure. Anyway, hope this helps!
Right now I'm only running 350 watts, but will soon (likely before my next show) have be pushing 1250watts into this and a 2x12.
They are efficient cabinets, so you'll get a lot out of any power you put into them. Don't believe the 600 watt rating. That's a thermal rating. In real world playing 300 watts would be driving themn into distortion in the bass region, but they'd be unbearably loud then anyhow. There are a number of 4x10 cabinets that Yorkville made over the years. Let us know what colour the carpeting is on it. That'll give a clue as to its age. Speaker wise, I believe the speakers were the same for many years. Eminence made for Yorkville and the speakers are probably still available from Yorkville should you need to replace one. I finally blew a 15" in my Yorkville 1x15 with no tweeter. I was driving it way to hard with a Mesa Walkabout head (and it was pretty loud). The Yorkville power rating for that speaker was 300 watts. The cabinet is probably over 10 years old and was used a lot and driven hard the whole time. It's one of the poplar plywood cabinets which are lighter than the new Traynor Baltic Birch cabs. I got quoted a replacement price for the speaker of $130 Canadian. It can be ordered from any L&M store.
Hey, I have to say, it's *real* nice to have some Yorkville folks posting here, very helpful, and nice to know the guys in the shop and on the floor are bass players too. The 410 I tried out in the store was the model that was (I think) the last Yorkville 410 before the Traynor branding returned. They had the bullet-proof Tolex or whatever that covering is - truck bed liner? The rating was 600 watts at 8 Ohms, and was the only wattage rating on the cab. Wouldn't labeling it with an actual useful wattage rating be more helpful? After all, that's the main reason why I didn't buy it.
You'll find that none of the manufacturers rate their cabinets by any standards that represent the real world of playing. It's very competitive and if they can put down a higher power handling rating and justify it somehow, then they'll do it. The newbies who buy the stuff look at one cabinet that says 300 watts and another that says 600 watts and assume that the 600 watt one is better. Yet, they could both be using the same speakers. No, it's not right, but thankfully you don't have to pay attention to their specs. Go by reputation and sound. That latest model Yorkville is a good one. It will handle a lot of power and is efficient to boot. If it's a good price, and $200 Canadian is good, and the speakers all sound fine, I'd say, go for it. I'm not a 4x10 fan but I used one of those cabinets when it was supplied as a backline on a gig a while back and driven by a good head it sounded very good. No problem being heard or getting a good solid bottom end. I was driving it pretty hard and it didn't sound anywhere near close to breaking up. It's also good to know you can easily get exact replacement speakers at a decent price. The spray on coating stands up good and is easy to touch up if it gets nicked. Easy to clean too, unlike carpet. I hope it turns out good.
Sorry, I think you got the wrong idea - I'm not buying one, I'd checked one out a couple of years ago when I was shopping for a new cab, and steered away from it because it was rated *too* high for my head and my gigs, at 600 watts/8 Ohms. I needed about 500 watts at 4 Ohms, so didn't go with a Yorkie. I was giving my opinion to the OP, based on that experience.