Options for Light Weight Bass for beginner

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Cinnamon, May 3, 2019.


  1. Cinnamon

    Cinnamon

    May 3, 2019
    Hello
    My daughter is fairly talented at guitar for her age, but the opportunity to play with some friends is playing bass not lead guitar. (These freshman high school bands have a few guitarists already). So if I get her a bass to learn on, she will gain some confidence, and probably one day be confident enough to look for her own band as a guitarist if she keeps it up. I play a little guitar but have a shoulder injury, she is tiny and I think getting a light weight instrument will be key to her actually going the distance to learn it well.
    I was looking these options:
    Epiphone Toby Deluxe-IV Bass Guitar
    vs Fender Precision Bass - Lyte (MIJ vintage) or ??

    She likes to play alternative and metal and some classic rock. She composes songs rather naturally and has been doing it since she was little... so I don't mind spending up to $600 on the instrument if it will hold value in case she wants to trade later. Any ideas? Is the Toby Deluxe out of the box pretty good without customizing it?
    Our friend the professional said to get her a P bass.

    Any idea if the Rumble 25 is a good enough amp to play with the teen drummer?
     
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  2. If she is tiny you probably want to look into a short scale bass. 30"

    AC Guitars - Custom
    Alembic - Custom
    Ampeg AMB-1 "Dan Armstrong" - 30.5"
    Ampeg SSB - 30"
    Aria 1720 - 30.5"
    BaCH TC Bass - 30"
    Birdsong - Custom
    Bohemian Oil Can Bass
    Brice HVB-600 – 30.3"
    Burns Nu-Sonic - 30”
    Chowny CHB-1 - 30"
    Chowny SWB1 "Scott Whitley" - 30.75"
    Colibri Gedovius - 30"
    Cort Action Bass Junior - 30"
    Danelectro Dano 63 - ?
    Danelectro Longhorn - 30.5"
    Danelectro Silvertone 1444 - ?
    Danelectro Vintage Shorthorn - 29.87" (this one has been admitted even though it is 0.13" shorter than the thread title)
    Danelectro Wild Thing - 30"
    Daisy Rock Heartbreaker - 30"
    Daisy Rock Retro-H - 30"
    Dean Evo XM - 30"
    Dean Hillsboro Jr - 30"
    Douglas WVEB Violin Bass - ?
    Duesenberg Starplayer - 30.3"
    Eastwood Airline - 30.5"
    Eastwood Classic 4 - 30.5"
    Eastwood Classic 4 Fretless - 30.5"
    Eastwood Classic 5 - 30.5"
    Eastwood DEVO Be Stiff - 30.5"
    Eastwood Hi-Flyer - 30.5"
    Eastwood Kustom K-200 - 30.5"
    Eastwood La Baye 2x4 - 30.5"
    Eastwood Saturn IV - 30.5"
    Eastwood Sidejack Bass IV - 30"
    Eastwood TB64 - 30"
    Egmond – 30"
    Eko Viola bass - 30”
    Epiphone Allen Woody - 30"
    Epiphone EA-260 -
    Epiphone EB-0 - 30"
    Epiphone EB-1 - 30"
    Epiphone EB-3 - 30"
    Epiphone ET-280 - ?
    Epiphone Newport - 30.5"
    Epiphone Rivoli - 30.5"
    Epiphone Viola Bass - 30.5"
    FBB - Custom
    Fender Bass IV - 30"
    Fender Bullet - 30"
    Fender Coronado - ?
    Fender Hello Kitty/Badtz-Maru - 30"
    Fender Modern Player Short Scale Jazz Bass - 30"
    Fender Musicmaster Bass - ?
    Fender Mustang - 30"
    Fender Rascal - 30"
    Fender Starcaster - 30"
    Framus - 30"
    Gibson EB-0 - 30.5"
    Gibson EB-1 - 30.5"
    Gibson EB-2 - 30.5"
    Gibson EB-3 - 30.5"
    Gibson EB-6 -
    Gibson Les Paul - 30.5"
    Gibson Les Paul Triumph - 30.5"
    Gibson Melody Maker Bass - 30.5"
    Gibson Memphis ES (Les Paul) – 30.5”
    Gibson Thunderbird Shortscale -
    Gibson SB-300 - 30.5"
    Gibson SB-350 - 30.5"
    Gibson SG – 30.75”
    Gretsch 6073 Electrotone - 30.25”
    Gretsch G2202 Electromatic Junior Jet - 30"
    Gretsch G2224 Junior Jet II - 30"
    Gretch Hollowbody -
    Gretsch Synchromatic BassVI -
    Gretsch Thunder Jet -
    Guild JS I - 30"
    Guild JS II - 30"
    Guild JSB-2 - 31"
    Guild M-85 - 30.75"
    Guild Starfire - ?
    Guild Starfire II - ?
    Hagstrom IV - 30"
    Hagstrom VIII - ?
    Hagstrom H 2B - 30.5"
    Hagstrom H8 - 30"
    Hagstrom Hag II - 30"
    Hagstrom Swede - all 30.5"
    Hagstrom Viking - 30.5"
    Hallmark Swept-Wing - 30"
    Hamer 8-string -
    Hamer 12-string -
    Hamer Slammer - 30"
    Harley Benton PB-Shorty Standard Series - 30"
    Harmony - 30"
    Herd Guitars T Bass - ?
    Höfner Club - ?
    Höfner Galaxy - ?
    Höfner Ignition - 30"
    Höfner President - ?
    Höfner Violin - 30"
    Hohner - ?
    Ibanez AFB200 - ?
    Ibanez AGB 205 5 - 30"
    Ibanez Artcore Vintage -
    Ibanez GAXB 150 -
    Ibanez TMB30 Talman Short Scale 30"
    James Bass - Custom
    Jay Turser - 30"
    Jerry Jones Longhorn - 30"
    Jerry Jones Longhorn Bass VI -
    Jerry Jones Shorthorn - 30"
    Kay EB100 - 30"
    Kiesel Vader Headless - 30"
    Kramer Duke (aluminum neck) - 30.75"
    Kramer XL-24 - 30.75"
    Kustom K200 - ?
    Lakland HB30 - ?
    Landing - Custom
    LeCompte - Custom
    Linc Danger Bass - ?
    Luna - Various
    Lyle - ?
    Maruszczyk - Custom
    Mensinger - Custom
    Michael Dolan – Custom
    Mike Lull Customs P430 - 30”
    Mosrite Mark 1 basses = 31"
    MTD 430 - 30"
    MTD 530 - 30"
    MTD 630 - 30"
    Moonshine Guitars - Custom
    Mosrite - ?
    Musicmaster - 30"
    Musicvox Spaceranger - 30"
    OLP Musicman Silhouette baritone (B-B) - 30"
    Ovation Applause AE-40 - 30"
    Ovation Typhoon - 30.5"
    Phantom Bass (reissue) - 30"
    PRS Private Stock Hollowbody Bass - 30.25"
    R Bass - Custom
    Reverend Dub King - ?
    Reverend Wattplower - 30"
    Rickenbacker 3000 – 30"
    Rick Turner Renaissance deuce 5 string fretless - 30"
    RMI Boomslang - 30"
    Rob Allen Mouse - 30"
    Rogue VB-100 – 31"
    Serek Midwest - Custom
    Serek Sacramento - Custom
    Schecter Hellcat 6 string - 30"
    Shergold Marathon 6 string - 30"
    Spector Bantom - ?
    Spector "Gary Talent" Bass - 30 3/8"
    Squier Bronco Bass - 30"
    Squier Jaguar Special SS - 30"
    Squier Mustang - 30"
    Stagg BC300 - ?
    Supro Huntington - 30"
    SX Shortscale J - 30"
    SX Shortscale P - 30"
    Tanglewood TEB-12 - 30"
    Teisco - Various
    Univox 30 - 30"
    Vantage 30 - 30"
    Vox – 30"
    Vox Viola Bass - 30”
    Warmoth (Various) - 30"
    Warwick Corvette Shortscale - 30.75"
    Warwick - Custom
    Waterstone - 30" & 32"
    Wilcock Short Horn - Custom
    Wilson Sapphire (1968) - 30"
    Wishbass - Custom
    XStrange/Bruce Johnson SSB - 30.5"



    I personally like the Epiphone Allen Woody Rumblekat. It and others on this list are hollow or semi hollow, so not only will they be lighter, the shorter scale will be easier for small hands.
     
  3. Ha, I cut and pasted that list without really looking at it. Many of them are old models and hard to find.


    I would look into short scale offerings from Fender, Squier, Ibanez, Epiphone , Danelectro, Eastwood, Gretsh , and Reverend.
     
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  4. Cinnamon

    Cinnamon

    May 3, 2019
     
  5. Cinnamon

    Cinnamon

    May 3, 2019
    She is tiny as in she is lanky and very thin and has been ill so she has not been working out. So her stamina is not great right now. But she has relatively long fingers for an average height girl. So I think she might prefer a standard scale bass.
     
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  6. Reedt2000

    Reedt2000 Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2017
    Central New Jersey
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  7. jd56hawk

    jd56hawk

    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
    Short-scale Fender Mustang...$550 but you can get it for 15% off.
    Good bass for a good price that she can still play years down the road.
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    Ibanez TMB 100...$199 but it's 34" scale.
    It might be the perfect color for a girl. Not to mention, you'll have some money left for a 150 watt bass amp because she'll need 150 watts or better if she's playing with a drummer, unless we're talking bongos.
    The Ibanez TMBs are very popular basses around here.
    [​IMG]
    Some people think young girls should stick to short-scale basses, but...
     
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  8. Bass V

    Bass V

    Dec 11, 2008
    Honolulu, Hawaii
    the Toby is a great choice, but get the cheaper Standard model cos the Deluxe has common electrical issues which detract from it's value as an otherwise very well designed bass. for an amp, the Rumble 25 should do fine, for learning tho the Fender B-DEC 30 is an invaluable tool, google it for some user reviews to find out.
     
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  9. BassBuzzRS

    BassBuzzRS

    Oct 18, 2005
    Norway
    Take her to a music store and let her know try out some basses?
     
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  10. ixlramp

    ixlramp

    Jan 25, 2005
    UK
    Almost sounds like others are trying to make the choice for her and she has no say. Don't forget she needs to actually like the look of the instrument, maybe start with a long list of suitable lightweight basses and let her choose the one that appeals.
    Who cares if someone says 'get her a P bass'? That's only their taste. P basses have large bodies, not ideal for smaller people.
     
  11. jd56hawk

    jd56hawk

    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
    P bass?
    Not a good idea.
    Right up there with a Hofner or any violin-shaped bass, any single cutaway bass and anything she might find too...stodgy.
    Never met a girl under 21 who liked any of the above. Sure, there might be a few out there, but...
     
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  12. CallMeAl

    CallMeAl Supporting Member

    Dec 2, 2016
    Ithaca Ny
    Squier Jaguar SS + Rumble 40
     
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  13. Ostie

    Ostie

    Aug 1, 2018
    Mid MI
    Squire VM Jaguar short scale
    Ibanez tmb30
    Fender Mustang bass
     
  14. Cinnamon

    Cinnamon

    May 3, 2019
    They don't have many of the full scale but lightweight models in the music stores that I am aware of ... but I think if I drive a bit they have the Toby somewhere, and about an hour away is a vintage P bass lyte... I am no expert ... so that is why I asked. And yes... JD56 ..you are right she is not wanting a stodgy bass... she is in high school and looks like a high fashion model with blue hair and watches a lot of Shavo Odadjian and Incubus, Muse, etc. videos.
     
  15. Erik herman

    Erik herman Gold Supporting Member

    Don't let the longer scale of a standard bass think that it's unplayble to shorter people I started out at her age and I'm small in stature well, I've gotten wider over the years! :laugh: the Lyte is a nice bass especially for a first instrument! I would definitely recommend at least 100 watts for someone wanting to play in a band. I started out with 25 and it was brutal, instantly drown out. 100 can keep up with a couple of high schoolers just jamming together.
     
  16. kohanmike

    kohanmike Gold Supporting Member

    Last edited: May 4, 2019
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  17. "Mmmm.... Leo was right. 34 works just fine."
     
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  18. matante

    matante

    Nov 3, 2003
    Los Angeles
    If it were me I'd tell her to browse the internet until she finds something she like visually, no price limit. Then come back and tell us what it is and we'll help you find versions of that bass that are within your budget. Our suggestions now would be meaningless if we don't know her style.
     
  19. BassmanM

    BassmanM

    Feb 17, 2011
    Hamburg, Germany
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    somebrains

    Feb 7, 2017
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