Orion (Metallica) on 20 fret bass?

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  1. TortoiseBass

    TortoiseBass

    Aug 26, 2020
    So I love Orion, possibly my favourite piece of music ever. I may get my next bass January or Febuary next year. I currently play a 20 fretter and for my next bass I’d love to get, say, the design of a Stingray or Jazz, with 24 frets. But of course, in my price range that is non-existent! I love the looks of a classic bass a million times more than the ‘standard’ look for a 24 fretter so probably will get a CV 60s Jazz, Subray4 or Ignition Violin bass, and I want to know if I can play Orion on 20 fretter. I know you can lower it an octave but I feel like that will lose the magic. Please help me!
     
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  2. rejb87

    rejb87 Inactive

    Jul 20, 2017
    Wasn't cliffs Ric a 20 Fret?
     
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  3. TortoiseBass

    TortoiseBass

    Aug 26, 2020
    He played Orion on a 24 fret Aria Pro
     
  4. 4stringfarley

    4stringfarley Supporting Member

    Nov 4, 2015
    Cajun Country
    Granted its been 20 years since I played it all the way through. I don't recall it using anything above the 15th or 16th fret though.
     
  5. TortoiseBass

    TortoiseBass

    Aug 26, 2020
    Maybe you lowered it an octave?
     
  6. 4stringfarley

    4stringfarley Supporting Member

    Nov 4, 2015
    Cajun Country
    No, I had bought the Official Tab / Sheet music books from Camelot music in the mall (that I had to walk both ways, up hill, in the snow, pulling a wagon of fat kids with no wheels, wearing newspaper for underwear). I remember it all being in the same area as Anesthesia and My friend of misery. That 12th fret octave on the G.
     
  7. TortoiseBass

    TortoiseBass

    Aug 26, 2020
    Oh interesting, can I see a picture of the tab?
     
  8. 4stringfarley

    4stringfarley Supporting Member

    Nov 4, 2015
    Cajun Country
  9. LoTone

    LoTone Clean as an Entwistle... Supporting Member

    Nov 4, 2010
    Quebec, Canada
    Orion on a Beatle bass? That could be interesting. If you do that, please make a recording. I would like to hear that.
     
  10. Corevalay

    Corevalay Supporting Member

    Sep 10, 2009
    New Jersey
    I can't help but think buying a bass simply for the ability to play a cover is a bit overboard, no?
     
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  11. TortoiseBass

    TortoiseBass

    Aug 26, 2020
    Yes but I love the song so much. Or am I delusional? :laugh:
     
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  12. Orion was one of the first songs that made me pick up a bass, sometimes influenced the bass I purchased. There are a few notes above the 20th. Nothing that cant be changed. This is standard tuning. Enjoy the heck outta playing that song. Try out the Cliff Burton wah pedal too for the bass solos. Tabs from Songsterr.com (my fav)

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  13. FronTowardEnemy

    FronTowardEnemy It is better to go unnoticed, than to suck Supporting Member

    Sep 19, 2006
    Chicago Illinois
    If Wal were a bit more affordable, I would buy one to cover Tool songs.
     
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  14. TortoiseBass

    TortoiseBass

    Aug 26, 2020
    So say I replaced the huge bend at the start on the 19th fret, and replaced the other notes with 20th fret, would it sound alright?
     
  15. It probably wont sound like the album version. Try it out, now I kinda wanna play this again. You could always change the tuning of your bass to get those higher notes available.

    Also side note - "For Whom the Bell Tolls" bass intro starts at the 19th fret. Always just as enjoyable to play!
     
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  16. primussucks9126

    primussucks9126 Supporting Member

    Jan 1, 2008
    Bronx, NY
    I get preferring the aesthetics of old school stuff, but Ibanez makes great, versatile, affordable 24 fret basses.

    You can always change the looks. I've seen guys add pickguards to SR series basses. To me, that's 90% of the old school aesthetic.

    The Danelectro Longhorn is 24 frets, old school design, and surprisingly versatile.

    Jackson also makes this:
    Jackson Concert Bass CBXNT IV - Matte Army Drab

    Which might check that old school box
     
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  17. This is my transcription of that section. It does go above fret 20, but the harmony part is also really cool and is in a nicer range...

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  18. Jazz Ad

    Jazz Ad Mi la ré sol

    Cort and others have M and jj equipped instruments at very moderate prices.
     
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  19. AudioTaper

    AudioTaper Supporting Member

    Sep 23, 2018
    Want a 24-fret Stingray? Check out the Chowny EVO. Brand new for $550, but they are almost always on backorder. I was going to get a black one, but I opted to modify a USA Peavey Cirrus (for a lot more time and money...)

    Or keep your eye out for a used Aria SB-1000. I see them in the $600 and up range from time to time. Not a Stingray, but you'll get more Cliff out of it.

    Dont settle for less than what you want. Save up another month if you have to.
     
  20. BigDrew

    BigDrew

    Jun 1, 2016
    LI-NY
    What do you use for making tabs?
     
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