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Our Greatest American Poet

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by buzzbass, Feb 22, 2008.


  1. Eric, I wasn't getting confrontational....did you miss the lol and the :D

    So your saying we are too stupid to understand their poems?....again lol :D

    hard to pick up someone's sense of humor, or lack there of in a post....

    I'm a big fan of open form poetry. All the poets i mentioned are known for open form and all american mostly from the 40's, 50's and 60's

    seriously never heard of e.e. cummings?

    Here try some of mine.....

    Anger and sorrow
    swim through my veins,
    costant ebb and flow.

    Tattered and hollow eyed,
    i cannot sleep.

    A knife in the back,
    from every one of her kind,
    i have known many.

    Winter on my soul,
    it refuses to subside,

    No spring to come.

    Invited sickness,
    a heart grown hard,
    almost dead,
    trust only in pain.

    To be at peace,
    no longer a possibility,
    it has been too long,
    the wounds too deep.

    Constant twilight,
    lost and wandering alone,
    on the highway of life,
    on an old iron horse,
    built for two.

    The wind in my hair,
    is small consolation.

    (Copyright M.C.H 2008)

    I know cheesy images, but I am published....... this is the only one i could remember by heart.

    i have more
     
  2. MakiSupaStar

    MakiSupaStar The Lowdown Diggler

    Apr 12, 2006
    Huntington Beach, CA
    Open form is kind of my roots. Most of the stuff I've had published is open form. I mostly write lyrics now (duh!). Here's one that I wrote that we're noodling around with. Although, posting this in the greatest american poet thread is quite a stretch. ;)

    Clouds In the Sky

    I’ve always lived like a leaf on a lazy stream
    floating with the flow to follow the same old dream
    one day I found myself floating in the ocean
    an angry salmon - young dumb and full of motion
    inclined to swim against the easy life I know
    to find me a woman to sow what I must sow
    and torn between the yin of things that were so fun
    and the yang of the things that just gotta get done

    [chorus]
    my old man told me to live ‘til the day you die
    and as long as you got salt in your eye
    there’s nothing but clouds in the sky
    there’s nothing but clouds in the sky


    [solo]

    [third section coming out of the solo]
    got drunk one night and saw the moon
    red and yellow like a giant peach
    in a big dark chocolate spoon

    hypnosis brought me to the beach
    a drunken moth swoon drawn to light
    instincts driven to crazy feats

    sand and sound beneath the moonlight
    hooked me by the salt in my veins
    to return to ocean that night

    the sour moon and all that remains
    reminded me of memories
    all the fine women and their games

    visions of carnal reveries
    their soft flavors and their perfume
    drift away with the gentle breeze

    You were better with scales, said moon
    On the sand crawling and gasping.
    Awaiting my decay and ruin

    In the soup I went for a swim
    Sank into darkness and waited
    To exchange a limb for a fin.

    [Chorus]

    Women are money or time and time came easy
    So my girl and I spent days staring at the sea
    Then the sunrise and nightfall faded to a heartbeat
    Now I pay the women to leave for a night’s sleep
    At night I fall to bed like a reed in the breeze
    Destined to compromise and flatten down with ease
    Til time drifts back to a leaf in a lazy stream
    Drowning in the cool current of the same old dream
    - DH 2006.
     
  3. I'm diggin' it Maki

    i hate it when academics slam open form for the sake of slamming something the just don't seem to grasp

    I by no means was implying that my poetry belongs with the greatset american poets either.....:D

    just being me....opinionted butthead!
     
  4. No Conrad Aiken fans?

    By far my favorite American poet. He had a brilliant grasp on language.
     
  5. Eric Cioe

    Eric Cioe

    Jun 4, 2001
    Missoula, MT
    Not at all. Well, sort of. I wasn't singling out talkbass members. I don't think anyone understands what Ezra Pound is talking about in the Cantos. The fact that he used languages from English to Sanskrit doesn't help.

    The same is somewhat true with Eliot. It's hard to walk away from reading The Wasteland with a feeling of confidence about its meaning. I know I never really have. But beyond all the complexity, I think that Eliot probably selected his words about as carefully as anyone that ever wrote a poem, and I can admire his craftsmanship.

    And sure, I know e.e. cummings. He's a fine poet but he doesn't speak to me, just like Eliot doesn't speak to you.

    And thanks for posting your poem, as it explains a lot about your viewpoint and influences. You and I have different taste in poetry, and that's what makes the world turn.
     
  6. I was quite angry with a particular young woman when i wrote that (My ex to be precise i have devoted roughly 100 poems to our short 5 years together)

    not quite sure what you meant by the comment either good or bad doesn't really matter as you hit the nail on the head when you typed (Insert Poet Here) doesn't speak to you

    I always leaned towards those that marched to the beat of a very different drummer

    classic forms were always boring to me, just like only coloring inside the lines....lol

    again no hard feelings...:D
     
  7. Jared Lash

    Jared Lash Born under punches

    Aug 21, 2006
    Denver, CO
    As I mentioned earlier, I just got finished reading some Ezra Pound. At times I just put the book down and gave up for the time being.

    Well, since this thread has veered so of course already I guess we can broaden the topic a bit to include poets from other countries. Though I don't read him much anymore, one of my favorite poets when I was a kid was Octavio Paz.
     
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  8. CrashBang

    CrashBang

    Jan 1, 2008
    Newton, MA
    +1 to Robert Hunter.

    Jack Kerouac had mad skills as a poet. Most people are only familiar with his novels, but Mexico City Blues was a book of poetry written in 240 some odd verses. It was written on a manual typewritter on a continuious roll of paper. He used a stream of concious method of writing and wrote this book to show his poet friends that novels were not like playing bass to poetry like playing guitar. This masterpiece of beat poetry is a must read for anyone looking for the greatest American poet.

    Honerable mention to Anne Sexton, a fellow Newton resident, who in the Sylvia Platt school of poetry took her own life. She did some wonderful stuff rewriting nursery rhymes (not like Dice Clay).

    Big O, if you are not a fane of Pinsky, try reading his translation of Dante's Infero. It will make you a fan.
     
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  9. Bard2dbone

    Bard2dbone

    Aug 4, 2002
    Arlington TX
    Thanks for noticing. He doesn't do as much for me as a singer, but MAN can that guy write.

    Emily Kaitz is like that. Her singing voice is kind of awful. I definitely wouldn't hire her as a singer, But she writes amazing stuff on accasion. She writes hilarious stuff the rest of the time.
     
  10. chuck norriss

    chuck norriss Banned

    Jan 20, 2011
    Dickinson has to be the most important and most influential female writer of modern english or lets say since the Gutenberg press Egyptian lover the greatest male poet o but i dont thinks he's a USA-an if that's what you mean by american that is you're talking usa and not cnada central or southamericas
     
  11. i completely gree for the most part although i tink dares a place for steven tyler on the list of petes.
     
  12. chuck norriss

    chuck norriss Banned

    Jan 20, 2011
    Egypt is the place to be. Egypt. Egypt.
     
  13. petrus61

    petrus61 Supporting Member

    Bukowski
     
  14. fhm555

    fhm555 So FOS my eyes are brown Supporting Member

    Feb 16, 2011
    Speaking of the nuge, he's whining again about his racist views drawing him booking cancellations from his blockbuster casino tour of the upper Midwest.

    No real surprise though, he managed to talk his way out of military service for Vietnam, and to this day he's still managing to talk himself out of things.

    Must be tough to be an aging attention whore who jumped the shark so long ago it was a megalodon.
     
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  15. chuck norriss

    chuck norriss Banned

    Jan 20, 2011
    As if I didn't notice / the way she combed her hair from her forehead
     
  16. buzzbass

    buzzbass Shoo Shoo Retarded Flu !

    Apr 23, 2003
    NJ
    I'd like to amend my thread title. After I've seen Nugent spew his vile hateful political crap over the past few years, I'd like name him one of the Greatest American Douche' bags. I don't care what your political views are, but the stuff he says in public is just plain wrong. The original post was sort of tongue in cheek anyway. I'm embarrassed I even started this thread now. Mods, feel free to lock or delete.....please
     
  17. chuck norriss

    chuck norriss Banned

    Jan 20, 2011
    you can change the title and thread contents or even delete the thread by the different editing options I think it evolved into something good and harmless and your disclaimer is enough we understand you don't abide by nugents untoward unkind spite
     

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