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P bass to MM Stingray conversion?

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by bassestkkm, Oct 13, 2013.

  1. Anyone ever heard of this being done? Where the pickup and the body is routed a little extra to make room for a MM pickup? I've got this going on in my bass. It was given to me 7 years ago and I'm only now learning enough about the thing to realize this is what's happening. Its a passive bass and I like the sound. But maybe I'll change to a 2 band active EQ in the future. Its got a SD basslines in it as it is and I like the sound.
  2. What you should do is keep the P pickup and add a MM pickup in the "sweet spot" position (which is way down by the bridge).
  3. jallenbass

    jallenbass Supporting Member Commercial User

    May 17, 2005
    Bend, Oregon
    The pickups would overlap.
  4. natas


    Mar 14, 2013
    what do you mean?
  5. UBU


    Nov 15, 2006
    The P pup and the MM pup in their traditional spots share a little space.
  6. Andii Syckz

    Andii Syckz

    Jan 2, 2011
    Probably, but what he means is to put the MM pup closer to the bridge. Like say, look at fender basses with p/j pup config, the jazz pup is close to the bridge, that's where he is suggesting you put the MM pup.
  7. meatwad


    Apr 9, 2008
    Smallville, USA
    As already said, if you want that MM sound, the pickup needs to be more in the "bridge" position. I would add the MM pickup, rather than replace the original P.
  8. Ric5

    Ric5 Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jan 29, 2008
    I Grow Organic Carrots

  9. Ric5

    Ric5 Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jan 29, 2008
    I Grow Organic Carrots
  10. uOpt


    Jul 21, 2008
    Boston, MA, USA
    Pickup position matters.

    If you want the real stingray sound you would have to move the pickup toward the bridge and then it would half overlap with the pickguard, looking really odd.

    I would advice against building a single pickup bass with a MM class humbucker in a more neckish position. You are likely to not get a usable sound out of it.
  11. Yup, they overlap, so you cannot get both P and MM exactly right.
    An alternative I have seen that works pretty well is to route the MM at the correct spot, and then move the DG coil from the P pickup up. So you end up with a "reversed P". True, it does not exactly sound like a P, but I actually think it sounds better balanced that way anyway, and the MM at the right place gets you in Stingray territory. MOve the MM further to the bridge and it already loses "something". It sounds good, but more "fat Jazz" than Stingray...

    Disclaimer: I love the Stingray sound, so I'd give priority to that sound, anyway. Just providing an alternative here.
  12. uOpt


    Jul 21, 2008
    Boston, MA, USA
    If you do that the pickups are so close that they "see" each other's magnetic fields, and at that distance it is definitely audible. Both of them operate under a combined re-shaped magnetic field.
  13. Bassdirty


    Jul 23, 2010
    Hmmm...im kinda likin this..
  14. The result is good 'though, and the MM sounds Stingray regardless of the P pickup in its vicinity.
  15. Jared Lash

    Jared Lash Born under punches

    Aug 21, 2006
    Denver, CO
    Yeah, that's what I'd suggest too. Best results would come from getting a P pickup that is wound to match the MM but even with standard pickups I like this idea. Personally I'd use a three position switch for pickup selection: P, MM and P+MM.

    Oh I don't know about that. JohnK_10's Jazzmaster build sound (and look) pretty sweet to me.


    Sound clip
  16. Ric5

    Ric5 Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jan 29, 2008
    I Grow Organic Carrots
    ya ... that is a fun bass to play.

    I have remade/rebuilt it 6 or 7 times, with different pickups, preamps, passive wirings, this is the 3rd or 4th stripe look I have had on it.

    Currently it is wired passive and the stingray pickup has a toggle for single/series/parallel.
  17. MPU


    Sep 21, 2004
    Valkeala Finland
    They will not see each others magnetic field. Magnetic field is focused and weak enough so that it does not effect strings or other pickups. There will be difference in sound too because of two different style of pickups.
  18. Hey guys thanks for all the replies. I know you guys are talking the MM + P but MY bass already has the MM pup in the P bass pickups position. It does give a fatter jazz sound. Which I do like. I just want it to be a little more consistent b/c my pots are a bit tired. As in lose and non tapered.
  19. Andii Syckz

    Andii Syckz

    Jan 2, 2011
    pictures, or it doesnt exist :D
  20. Here it is next to my Classic Vibe P bass same bodies different neck and the pickup was replaced by P/O


    Not letting me post the pic so here's the link to it

    And don't judge my dirty fretboard :p Its my go to bass and has been for quite some time. I give it a good cleaning on occasion it just happened to be after a lot of playing when I took this lol

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