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Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by bass_drum, Jun 14, 2005.
What p style pickup would you suggest to best replecate geezer butlers sound?
I think this has been done before, and I think the consensus was something 'hot'... maybe an overwound Fralin?? Personally, I think a stock pickup and an overdriven guitar-amp...
I swear to God this pickup replicates his early P-bass sound (I own it):
Not as expensive as a fralin, either.
Would that be for Black Sabbath and Paranoid albums?
Any other suggestions? What abou the Fralin or Bartolini?
those fender P-bass, and play close to or on the neck.
What about the Dimarzio P pickups?
I would like something with some output.
This is correct. If you have a two pick-up bass, use the neck pick-up.
On the amp, crank your "bass" to "11". Scoop the mids, and set the "treble" moderatley high.
one question, if the mids are what make the bass cut though the mix, and geezer butler cuts through very nicely, why would i scoop the mids?
having an older tube amp would help alot to get his tone.
it really doesn't matter that much 'which' pickups you use, just a good over-driven p-bass tone should do. play a bit up on your fretboard, keep the mids around the lower freqs, and get a tube amp and push the heck out of it.
I have the Dimarzio Split P's in my Ibanez Blazer. They have a nice growl to them with a clearer upper range. You might want to give those a look too.
Geezers sound can be duplicated using a Bass Wah pedal which is opened up about a 1/4 of the way then left alone and then you play low with your fingers towards the neck jointand for some runs even right on the fret board (which I seen him do in video) . you will hear it and can adjust the wah accordingly to get the exact sound..
I covered many sabbath tunes and this is exact so borrow a wah or try one at a music store and give it a try..
Trust me, that Fender pickup has plenty of output.
I have the DiMarzio Model P, and it has huge output. The emphasis there is on cut. It's definitely a P-bass tone, but NOT vintage. (See my reviews in the long P-bass pickup thread.) For early Sabbath, I'd want something with more vintage warmth -- maybe an overwound Fralin or Seymour Duncan Hot for P-bass.
To some degree this is hair-splitting, because the DiMarzio's aggressive presence is generally great for hard rock, and would thus work for Sabbath. In fact, I'm using it on some Sabbath-like material now, and it works fine, especially playing up by the neck as others have suggested. But if you're intent on nailing Geezer's tone exactly, look elsewhere.