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PA Cabinets

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Gabu, Jan 1, 2002.


  1. Gabu

    Gabu

    Jan 2, 2001
    Lake Elsinore, CA
    I am about to replace my pa cabinets with some that hopfully travel easier, sound better, louder perhaps... and would be interested in hearing your thoughts before I actually lay down the green.

    What I have now (This is for my microphone amplification only btw...):

    A generic 300w @ 4 ohms pa amp
    a Sure 1x15" w/ 2 tweeters and a 4x10 horn
    a home made cab with 2 8s and 2 6.5s
    - unfortunately I do not know off hand the SPL rating of the 115 cab, or the home made job, but the total speaker area is around 343. The 115 must weigh close to 100 pounds, the home made one is probably about 50.

    So I am looking at a pair of these:

    PMBH1539 Features:
    • Heavy Duty Construction w/Reinforced Corners
    • Black Carpeted Finish
    • 2 Way Speaker System
    • Each PMBH1539 Contains:
    --- One 4” x 10” Super Horn Midrange/Tweeter
    --- One 15” High Power Subwoofer
    • Two Heavy Duty Handles for Easy Portability
    • Quick Connect Speaker Terminals
    • Dual 1/4” Phono Jacks
    • Dual Ports for Added Bass Response
    • Built in Crossover Network
    • Power Handling: 200 Watts RMS 400 Watts Peak
    • Frequency Response: 45-19kHz
    • SPL: 101dB @ 1W/1M
    • Impedance: 8 Ohms
    • Shipping Dimensions: 32”H x 22”W x 16”D 48 LBS
    (the speaker area is about 354)

    or a pair of these:

    PMBH1239 Features:

    • Heavy Duty Construction w/Reinforced Corners
    • Black Carpeted Finish
    • Two Way Speaker System
    • Each PMBH1239 Contains:
    • One 4" x 10" Dispersion Horn Mid/Tweeter
    • One 12" WH12 High Power Subwoofer
    • Steel Waffle Grill Protects Woofer
    • Quick Connect Speaker Terminals
    • Pocket Handles for Easy Portability
    • Two 1/4" Phono Jacks
    • Shock Absorbent Legs
    • Dual Ports for Added Bass Response
    • Built-in Crossover Network
    • Power Handling: 150 Watts RMS/300 Watts Peak
    • Frequency Response: 50-19k Hz
    • Sensitivity: 97dB
    • Impedance: 8 Ohms
    • Shipping dimensions: 13"X 17"X 25" - 31 LBS
    (the speaker area is about 226)

    I am buying speaker stands so they will be elevated to ear level. The 12s are $149/pair, to the 15s $199/pair. The 12s are much lighter, which I like... But at 4db quieter, I am not sure that they would be sufficient against 2 150w mesa boogie guitar rigs, both playing through 2x12s. Carvins RC21018 rig and unamplified drums.

    Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
     
  2. Gabu

    Gabu

    Jan 2, 2001
    Lake Elsinore, CA
    a new competitor:

    Carvins 12" speaker cabinet:

    822 TECHNICAL SPECS
    Frequency Response
    Useable Low Frequency
    Power Handling
    Recomended Amp
    Sensitivity
    Coverage Angles
    80 Hz to 16 kHz ±3dB
    50 Hz (-10 dB)
    300w Continuous Power
    50 to 400 watts
    99 dB SPL, 1Watt @ 1 meter
    90 deg Horiz, 45 deg Vert
    Nominal Impedance
    Horn Driver Protection
    Inputs/Outputs
    Woofer Enclosure
    Enclosure Construction
    Enclosure Covering
    Dimension/Wt
    8 ohms
    Yes
    Two 1/4" & Two Twist-Lok conn.;
    Vented Box
    7-ply Poplar Wood
    Black Duratuff II™
    17.5" W x 12"D x 22"H 34lbs

    It has the lighter weight and is 99db instead of 97. Also it is a name brand so I might be able to trust it more... but it is used and out of warranty.
     
  3. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    The Carvins might be OK. But you're at -17 dB at 40 hz, so they're not going to help much on bass if you're DIing to the PA. I always thought Carvin's TR 1503 was a good speaker, but much more jing.

    For sound that kills, here's what you need.

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  4. Gabu

    Gabu

    Jan 2, 2001
    Lake Elsinore, CA
    :D Those look cool. But I really just need the mid range covered. 90% of the time nothing is going through the PA but vocals.
     
  5. cassanova

    cassanova

    Sep 4, 2000
    Florida
    how bout a pair of JBL's, I havnt heard their pa bins, but from what i hear they are very good quality and sound good too.
     
  6. Gabu

    Gabu

    Jan 2, 2001
    Lake Elsinore, CA
    I have seen a JBL 15" PA for about $250 at Mars Music. It is rated at 99db, but I don't remember the freq range. It's a great deal against similarly classed speakers... But Taking away the name brand I can get a pair of speakers, similarly rated for the same price.

    I think I am going to go for a efficient 12 for the easy transporting. I may be getting a pair of Carvin 822s. They are 12" speakers w/ a 4x10 horn and rated at 99db to 80hz... and -10db to 50hz. I am not worried about the bad lows, since I just need these for my vocals. I can get a pair of these for $280. (If this dude calls me back and tells me he is home! :mad: )
     
  7. my band is doing the same but we are upgrading...have a fender PA with a massive 80 watts and killer 8" speakers:rolleyes: now the I'm playing a full stack and one guitarist has a 100 watt half stack and the other a 60 watt 2x12 it is almost impossible to hear the vocals. We are probably upgadrading to either a 200 or 400 watt amp and either 12" or 15" speakers. not sure what we need to make sure the vocals cut through. any thoughts there...we two are looking at Carvin but might get a discounted deal from a friend at GC.
     
  8. cassanova

    cassanova

    Sep 4, 2000
    Florida
    thats not a bad idea, especially if your not worried about the lows, Its a 12" I wouldnt worry about the lows either then, You can always buy a 15'" or 18" in the the future if you decide ya wanna run lows through it, or even a 2x15 with a horn. :D

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