I bought a Carvin BX500 recently but have no cab to play it thru.. I have been trying to sell stuff locally, and for some cheap guitar I have, a guy offered a PA speaker, which he says has 12" eminences in them (altho hes not sure which model) They are Haggarty cabs which are very highly regarded from where I am (its a local company if i recall, but high quality) But im not sure if PA speakers would work for bass? Heres a picture, He said he would do one of these + a pedal I want in the trade for this guitar.. Think it would work for a decent small-show setup until I get a 2x10? It would mainly be just for smaller jazz/blues shows, where you dont need to overpower huge guitar amps. And if it would be fine, Which one should I take?
I play regularly through 2 15" laney PA speakers, and they sound sweet to me. Whatever you fancy using, if they sound nice use 'em, if they don't trade them in for something you prefer. Try before you trade though, they might be junk. Mind you my Laneys look like junk after 25 odd years of abuse.
I'm sure they'll sound fine, if they're good PA speakers they'll probably represent a pretty full frequency response. But, to be vain, you'll have a janky looking rig. If you don't have any other options monetarially, go for it. If not buy something cheap and used. But, bottom line you should consider the power rating of the cabs with your amp. (read the FAQ's if you're unclear about how ohms and wattage work with amps and cabs)
Hi. Unless those are really high end PA speakers he has there, I wouldn't use a single 12" with or without a Hi-Freq something as a bass cab. I have played through PA cabs numerous times and the 15" in my current rig is a HK PA bottom. TL 606's and especially TL 505's (I have only 2) make exxellent old school bass cabs as do almost all the older "real" PA cabs. The problems are the size and the weight. As for the horns question, if both of them are equipped piezo drivers, it won't make too much difference, sounds like crap anyway IME. If either of them is paired with a compression driver, I'd choose that one. Because You can replace the driver for something better. The miniature "JBL Dolly Parton" on the right hand cab looks too cute . Regards Sam
they are what you might see as a tiny pub-gig PA. through which vocals will sound sketchy. When you put anything other than vocals into them, they will demonstrate why he's trying to sell them. if you want a PA rig to go through that actually has low end see http://www.voidaudio.com/product_detail.asp?id=77 Basically, what I'm getting at it: Spend your money on bass cabs, not a speech PA.
Well designed and constructed PA cabs work just as well or better than electric bass cabs for bass. But these are neither well designed or constructed. Pass on both.
I don't know about these,but I think PA speakers for bass can work if yo want a clean, "flat" type of tone. I happen to like that. I haev debated PA type cabs for my bass rig for a while - especially if paired with a nice preamp/DI or Pod-type unit. My interest is in wedge/monitor type cabs as most of my gigs are PA supported so I just need a monitor. A monitor cab makes sens as it would give you a little better idea of what's coming out of the FOH as it's a similar type of cab - full range and flat meant to not color your sound. There are lots of purists here that won't play through anything but their Ampeg - and that's fine. They need/want that sound on stage, maybe mic'ed for FOH, whatever. But unless you are micing your cab, your FOH sound is from your DI and has little to do with your rig. A little if you use an on-board DI I guess. Anyway, they can work for the right person and situation.
I think you guys are assuming these are just crappy no-name pa speakers, but while they look ****** (any carpeted amp looks like crap), they are made by a boutique amp builder in eastern Canada, probably one of the top amp builders in eastern canada. These are not some crappy $100 PA speakers. Im sure the quality is there, by far exceeding any PA application with that size, but Im just wondering if it will work for bass. and I am not spending any money at all if I get one, since I will be trading a guitar. If I had money, obviously id buy a bass cab (even tho theres nothing used around where I live, and store prices are ********)
They are poorly built. The grille mounts alone attest to a lackadaisical eye on quality. That often means they have poorly outfitted as well. These do not look like they were ever anything but bargain basement non-design, really. It looks like a piezo was stuck in the area that used to be a second port in the right cab. On a single-woofer PA cab the tweeter should be at the top and look where that handle is at. Stupid. The cab on the left looks to have one of the old piezo horns which means at best, CRAP PA. The cab also looks severely underported like the other one, especially for low frequency use. You don't know if suitable woofers are in them, you don't know if they are tuned anywhere in a bass-friendly region, it's just a real poor gamble.
I agree with GB's assessment. It only takes about a minute to position the driver clamps in the proper place! I wouldn't use those cabs for anything let alone bass. Keep your guitar. Paul P.S. Asking our opinion and then shouting at us because you don't like the answer is not going to get you anywhere. Those cabinets can be described with one word each: crap and crap.
Another +1 for these last 2 posts. Look, I understand, you want these things to work out for you. You don't have any money to spend, I get it. But, save yourself the pain, AND the loss of your guitar, and look elsewhere. Patience grasshopper, something worthwhile will pop up when you least expect it. Don't trade your only bargaining chip away for a pile of crap.
Typical...people come on ask for advice, but they really only want reinforcement of their bad ideas. You all realize he's going to get one no matter what we say, right? I just wish people who don't want honest opinions would say upfront that they don't want honest opinions. Nick, I know you're not going to, but you'd be wise to listen to dudes like Paul, Greenboy and Bill. And Ricken, too
Seriously, be patient and save up the funds you need to buy a decent used bass cabinet. If you think selling that guitar for cash has been hard, wait until you try and unload these PA cabs later on!
Like others have said, don't. They're poorly built unmatched pair and would definitely not be worth it. The only person I've seen play bass through PA speakers is my dad, and he plays through high-end JBL stuff. To be honest, I wouldn't buy those even if they were designed and built by James B. Lansing himself.
I always refrain from making unfounded assumptions. Greenboy's observations are spot on, and I agree with the conclusions drawn from them. An expert in the field of loudspeaker design did not produce those cabs.