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Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by gruffpuppy, Jan 3, 2001.
great looking basses, i just saw one at a Guitar Center in MA. i never relized how big they are.
You asked for it .
W. Faulkner Jr.
big? ...and heavy too! . Man, what the he**
did you smoke for lunch? (I'm kidding! )
Maybe my perspective's screwed; in the past, I've had a Stingray,
a double-neck Rick, and a Conklin GT-7 . As I've mentioned in
other posts, I'm a big fan of the K.I.S.S. rule (...simple & stoopid).
After a long absence from playin' (thank you ex ), I was lookin'
to get back into it, but SIMPLE. I realized the days of multiple necks,
4 pups, 17 knobs, flashy-crap-to-impress-chix, wuz over.
You can't get much simpler than an MB-2: One "pup" (an under-saddle piezo),
and one volume. There is a tone trimpot, accessible through the
back cavity cover (set & forget). Actually, it was down to the MB-2 and
Rick Turner's Renaissance. I hate to admit it, but the visual element
figured into my decision. Whassup with that tailpiece on the Renaissance?
I preferred the clean (P-type?) lines of the Rob Allen.
I got mine from Mr. Allen directly, back when they listed for $1500.
Rob's a great guy to work with. He patiently listened to all my
dumb-@$$ questions . He said he had just started 3 MB-2's. They all had
the Swamp Ash bod, Birdseye Maple neck, Cocobolo board (buddah!), etc.
The difference was in the tops: one was tiger maple, one was quilted (maple),
and the 3rd (my baby) was ONE-PIECE Bluegum. Huh?!? That's what I said.
The two maples were book-matched, but I figured, "what the he**?...somethin' different...
AND one-piece!". I'm happy. The Bluegum top has quilt-like sworls and
the color is honey-gold. I did some surfin' and found out Bluegum is
indigenous to Southern Australia and Tasmania. Rob just got hold of a
big ol' slab from somebody. There's other sweet touches: Hipshot Ultra-lites,
Alaskan Ivory nut, Corian (yes that DuPont counter-top stuff) bridge,
Cocobolo Volume knob, string-through-body...
It took a little while to get it. I think 2-3 months.
I told Rob what kinda' tone I was goin' for, so he shipped it with
LaBella 760N tapewounds. I'm a Natural-Born-Futzer , so
I had to try Rotosound RS88 tapewounds. But now...she's sportin'
TI "Acousticores" (pleasure overload!). It is SO like an upright!
If you can, play that one you saw. For me, I can't keep my hands off that Coco-b board.
She screams "play me!" with every touch. It's a thing of beauty and a joy to play.
Sure, `ya hear that "one trick pony" crap. I look at it this way -
For $1500 (now $1750 list), you can get real da*n close to an upright without
shelling-out $5000+ for a good, full-up doghouse (plus $17.50 for a hernia belt).
Check `em out! ~ http://roballenguitars.com/
There's a (long) sound sample - "Audio Demonstration".
[Edited by notduane on 01-04-2001 at 01:59 AM]
and where did you get those Acousticores? kidding
Sounds like a cool bass!
Just an irrelevant point of little interest, bluegums are everywhere in Australia, not just the south. It's mostly the only damn tree you'll see, freaking billions of them! First time I've ever heard of the timber being used for an instrument, I bet it looks way cool!
It DOES look sweet. Overall light-brown tint, with the sworlin' and...one-piece!
I only found a few Bluegum pics online, but they look ENORMOUS!
Like 6 to 10 feet at the base. Are they really that big?
Reminded me of those giant whatcha-ma-callits in California
they carve "tunnels" through.
Speakin' of pics...I know, I know. Maybe one of the gear-heads
at work will loan me their digital camera.
Do you happen to know what kind of pickup you have on that bass??? I know that Rob Allen's mostly have the Fishman, but I have heard somewhere, (Bass Player?? Maybe...I dunno), that he also uses the Highlander pickup.
I have been lusting after these babies since I first saw them in Bass Player awhile back. Unfortunately, as the head of a SICK household, (Single Income, Coupla Kids), I lack the bread to buy one and so must build from scratch. I'm torn on pickup choice, and since you seem to really love your bass, I'm hoping maybe you'll post a bit on your experience with the electronics, pros and cons...
Thanks a bunch,
thanks notduane i wasn't smoking anything that day, i had been drinking i didn't mean big/huge it just took me by surprise that the bass was a little bigger than i expected from the pics on the web site. thanks for the info i will have to go up to the place i saw one and try it out. in all honesty i didn't try it while i was there because i had already put a deposit down on another bass that i liked and i new if i touched the rob allen it also would have had to come home with me
I'm pretty sure it's a Fishman. I'll have to double-check, though.
It's a real simple setup in the control cavity: 9-volt in a
"prong" holder, a trimpot (tone control) mounted up on a
little post, a cap, and the Fishman "cylinder" straight to
an Electrosocket output jack. The interior is coated in conductive paint.
The trimpot came un-stuck, but a little epoxy fixed that.
The trimpot itself is one of those little square deals
with the adjustment screw in the middle of the body vs. up
on one side. It's laid on it's "back" atop the post (dowel?)
for access via a little hole in the control plate.
I use Duracell 9-volts and they seem to last forever.
I guess Rob thought the best choice for the situation was the Fishman; i.e.,
strung-through body plus the combination of the Cocobolo
tailpiece and Corian bridge. The Coco-b tailpiece is recessed
slightly; it's attached to the body, not the top.
It is a sensitive son of a gun. You can even tap, if that's your thing.
I betcha' Hambone (Setup moderator) could help you with some
thoughts on a DIY project . Maybe get a cheap P-bass
body from Warmoth, send it to Hambone and let him go to town
with that CAD/CAM router of his carvin' out the innards.
He could probably fashion some sorta' top for you as well.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply nothin'. I got a whacked sense of humor .
If you do get your hands on one, be sure it's in a room with a high ceiling .
After totin' those 8, 9, and 10+ pound beasts around, you might "over react"
and think you've just been handed a banjo and send her flyin' .
no offense taken.
I can't believe I forgot this! Double-Dang-DUH!
Gruffpuppy - you're up near Boston right?
Jack Read makes an instrument very similar to a Rob Allen...
He**...Jack could probably make `ya anything you want AND at a good price.
I asked him about this HyperBass lookin' thing...
...I think the base list was around $2K. Steep, yeah.
But still a he** of a lot cheaper than the base Zon H/B.
Check `em out! ~ http://readcustom.com/bass.htm
Ahh stop it notduane your going to give me G.A.S.
I emailed Jack (Read) about that H/B lookin' one `cause
the description on the web page said somethin' about a passive pup.
`sides, I love the upper-register access afforded by that
wacky lower cutaway. You know me - K.I.S.S. rule.
The only decent* bass I'd seen with a passive M-M pup was
the Ampeg AMB. BUT...short scale and ewwww - frets!
* that don't cover Jay Turser
Man oh man I'm dying here. My MB-2 is supposed to be delivered in mid-January. Ordered directly from Rob, it's a 4 stringer with a wide curl maple "10" top on a mahogany body and a lined fretless cocobolo fingerboard. Sweeeeeet!
I got that edge of my seat, pullin' my hair out, in', I can't wait no more this is killing me, it's all I can think about feeling. I'm sure alot of you know what I'm talking about when your bass is supposed to be delivered in a week or two. (What's this thing you call patience?)
Sorry for the rant.... I feel better now.
Dude! Calm down! I know exactly where you're comin' from.
I had to wait 10 years for mine, so to speak.
Take 2 Mingus CD's and get plenty of rest .
Mahogany body, eh? Dude you gotta' post a review when your
new baby arrives! I bet she's gonna' have a sweet, singin' voice.
Are you a "finger-picker" ? If so, did you remember to ask Rob for a
thumb-rest? Good ol' Rob...even that thing is classy. Mine's made of
tiger flame maple. Rob suggests using double-sided tape to optimize
it's position. Then when you're happy with it, just a couple drops
of a good wood glue will hold it really well.
What kinda' strings are you gettin' on her? The LaBella 760N's ARE sweet.
But I swear, you will have an ear-gasm if `ya give those TI Acousticore's a try.
So, lose the heavy-duty strap, flush your Doan's, fire your chiropracter, and be patient...
it's worth the wait!
Well well well...lookee what I found!
Some pics of a fiver at NY G**tar & Bass Boutique ...
[Edited by notduane on 01-07-2001 at 09:29 AM]
Oh that was just mean ND!
Good find g.p.!
I guess the eMpTy Vee legal bunglers didn't shut `em all down