Pairing 210 and 112 Cabinets

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  1. optimvs

    optimvs

    Jan 13, 2011
    I'm in the market for some new cabinets. I have a solid 410 (PR-410HLF) that I play for large gigs, but would like something more portable for smaller gigs. The head I'm currently using is the Aguilar TH500, and I am not looking to change that right now. Is there a combination of 210 and 112 cabinets that anyone would recommend where the 210 can hold it's own well enough for smaller shows and a 112 could be added to fill up the sound for anything that doesn't require the 410? The TH500 will do 250 at 8ohms, so that is what I have to work with. I'd like to keep the total cost at or below $2k or so. Cheaper is always better, but I can spend up to about that point. Send me some ideas!
     
  2. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Inactive

    A pair of 12s stacked vertically will work as will a pair of 2x10s, my personal choice, stacked the same way. :)
     
  3. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    What he said ^. I love 2 12s - almost as full as a 4x10, and a lot easier to carry.

    I'm not sure your budget, but GK is a great bang for the buck. I would also look at Revsound - they make a 2x12 that is almost the same size as a vertically aligned 2x10, and only 38 pounds. David Luke, the owner, is a great guy. Last I checked, they were going for about $750.
     
  4. Linnin

    Linnin

    Jul 19, 2012
    Linningrad, Earth
    Try these on for size!
    Rumble210_112cabs_zps433af085.jpg
    and
    Rumble210_112nogrilles_zpsfebc362b.jpg
     
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  5. High Camp

    High Camp

    Oct 3, 2013
    Netherlands
    I'd go for two Ampeg SVT210AV cabs.
    Small footprint, light, great sound and only 300 dollars per cab.
    (use the remaining 1,400 dollars for a nice bass guitar:))
     
  6. I would not recommend that cab pairing.
     
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  7. Rick James

    Rick James Inactive

    Feb 24, 2007
    New Jersey
    +1, a 112 won't keep up with a 210, so it's not going to fill anything up. If you want to augment a 210 you need a 115. At that point you might as well just use the 410.
     
  8. samson3382

    samson3382

    Apr 26, 2009
    Boise, Idaho
    If I were you, I'd sell the 410 and get a pair of similar 210s. Use one for small both for big.
     
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  9. RickenBoogie

    RickenBoogie

    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    +1 to not mixing a 210 and 112 together. I'd go 2x 112 myself.
     
  10. ThisBass

    ThisBass

    Aug 29, 2012
    Germany
    As the TH500 minimum impedance is 4 Ohm so to me it makes no sense to consider any threesome driver set-up, independent of matched 12"s or matched 10"s or any mixing constellation. Most of the time the single driver impedance is 8 Ohm so total impedance of three (all in parallel) will be 2.7 Ohm. For a total impedance of 5.3 Ohm each driver must be 16 Ohm.
    A 112 cab could easily "keep up" with a 210 cab quite the same way any 1/2 of a 210 would accomplish a 210 to 310.
    To the contrary a 112 would contribute somewhat more of noise than a matching 110 could do.
    Although phase issues are regularly referenced by default, cabs of the same series provide similar tunings and response and in addition these "non matchin" cabs are loaded with drivers of same series (or at least the drivers were OEM designed to be of a "matching" family/series).
     
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  11. johnpbass

    johnpbass

    Feb 18, 2008
    Glen Mills, PA
    If you want to stick with Aguilar, I'd go with 2-112s, either DB's or GS series. Both sound great. If you like the Ampeg cabs, I'd consider 2-112AVs.
    The 112AVs sound really good with the TH500, IMO.
     
  12. Fenderon

    Fenderon

    May 28, 2008
    Oregon
    Sounds like a Bergantino HT 322 might be the cab your looking for, they come up used around here sometimes, lots of love for them.
     
  13. kevk

    kevk Supporting Member

    Jan 17, 2014
    Napa Valley
    It's well-documented on TB that Berg CN212s (and CN112s) pair superbly with the TH500...and, the 112s are about 28 lbs each...
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  14. chris_b

    chris_b

    Jun 2, 2007
    I'd certainly mix a Berg 112 and 210 together. I did for several years and they sounded great.

    If the cabs are designed to work together they will.
     
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  15. ThisBass

    ThisBass

    Aug 29, 2012
    Germany
    Although I'm a very satisfied owner of a 212, sometimes I'd wish a little bit more loudness coming out of it. The cab is often powered by a full tube svt (which is 300 svt tube watts you know) yet on stage I'd (sometimes) like to have a bit more of cones (or more watts).
    Sometimes I'm considering to trade off the brilliant extended/good response at low end of the the current drivers for somewhat more efficient, and more advanced voicing at overload range.
     
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  16. horsehead9

    horsehead9

    Jan 11, 2014
    Is this feasible? I'm currently running GK MB800 with 2 GK NEO 2x12 cabinets. I would like to swap one of the 212s with a NEO 410. ..... Both Cabs are 8 ohm but the NEO212 is 600w and the NEO410 is 800w. Will the MB800watt power amp be sufficient to run this configuration?
     
  17. bigtone23

    bigtone23

    Dec 10, 2014
    Denver, CO
    I stack my Markbass CMD121P on top of my old Ampeg 210HE (vertically) and it sounds great. The cabs match up well dimensionally too.
     
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  18. There is no such thing as "underpowering", if that is what you are asking.

    So, yes, it will work. How it will sound mixing driver sizes is up to you.
     
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  19. jthisdell

    jthisdell

    Jun 12, 2014
    Roanoke, VA
    There are a lot of posts on the Berg thread about mixing 1-12 and 2-10 cabs. It seems to me that they sb in the same line (ie CN112 & CN210 or HD112 & HD210, etc) for best results. Berg actually calls these a 322 and publishes these speaker profiles for its B-Amp. One of the cabs will handle slightly less power but with a TH500 you would be well below the lower handling cab.

    And +1 to the TH and berg cabs. I have a TH500 and an NV115 and a CN112 cab (no I do not mix these two).
     
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