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Passive P5 with Narrow Spacing

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by The Ryantist, Jul 29, 2017.


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  1. Jul 29, 2017 #1
    The Ryantist

    The Ryantist

    Mar 7, 2010
    Orange County, CA
    I am having a hard time finding basses that fit these criteria:
    • 5 string passive P bass (bonus if it's a PJ)
    • nut width close to 1-3/4" or 44mm (Fender is 1-7/8 or 48mm)
    • bridge spacing close to 11/16" or 17.5mm (Fender Am Std is 3/4" or 19mm)
    • neck width is slightly more important to me than the bridge spacing
    Music Man 5s have the most comfortable dimensions for me in terms of neck and string spacing, and I want something that sounds like a passive P (rarely throw in the bridge pickup for a different tone, but not essential). Here are the options I've found so far:
    • Yamaha BB1025X (maybe discontinued? can't find in stock anywhere)
    • Build a Warmoth
    • Convert a Music Man into a passive P bass (P routing would be under the pickguard but a J in the normal bridge position would not fit under the pickguard so I'd have to move it up or figure something else out)
    Any others you know of? Budget would be $700 - $2k ish. Thanks!
     
  5. Jul 29, 2017 #2
    Inara

    Inara Fierce Fun Fretless Female Supporting Member

    Jun 12, 2017
    Seattle, WA USA
    EBMM has said that they plan to release a five string Caprice in 2018. I believe it very well could be everything you're looking for, if you can wait. My four string Caprice is an amazing instrument ... I'll likely grab a five when they get here.
     
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  10. Jul 29, 2017 #3
    franklindayala

    franklindayala

    Feb 8, 2015
    PERÚ
    You should check Wilkins basses. Pat is working on my passive P5 bass. It's going to have 16.5mm string spacing.

    Edit:


    Here is Pat Wilkins PJ bass.
     
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2017
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  14. Jul 29, 2017 #4
    dedpool1052

    dedpool1052

    Jan 10, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    Considering I'm both left-handed and have specific tastes in basses that are not commonly available (single humbucker in p position and passive),
    I'd go this route. The SR5 is a comfortable bass with good playability, but the sound isn't exactly what I want. The plus side is the mods would be reversible considering the very large pickguard. Picking up a used SR5 would put you on the lower end of your budget as well.
     
  18. Jul 30, 2017 #5
    The Ryantist

    The Ryantist

    Mar 7, 2010
    Orange County, CA
    That would be amazing!!! :hyper::hyper::hyper:

    What is your source? The only thing I found on google is rumors on TB from last year. If this is true then I might just wait because I like EBMM that much.
     
  22. Jul 30, 2017 #6
    The Ryantist

    The Ryantist

    Mar 7, 2010
    Orange County, CA
    This sounds great! So do you mean you are getting one fully custom built?
     
  26. Jul 30, 2017 #7
    The Ryantist

    The Ryantist

    Mar 7, 2010
    Orange County, CA
    Yeah I haven't ruled this out. I briefly thought about doing my Sterling HS but I can't bring myself to do it! Maybe if I bought one specifically with this as the plan it will be easier.
     
  31. Jul 30, 2017 #8
    dedpool1052

    dedpool1052

    Jan 10, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    Considering that you'd be modding it anyway, why not save a few more bucks and find an SBMM Ray35?
    http://www.guitarcenter.com/Sterlin...profileCountryCode=US&profileCurrencyCode=USD
    Sterling Ray35 - Black
    If you could find one used, even better. It would be good to play one in person to see if the neck feels close enough to a US model for you.
     
  35. Jul 30, 2017 #9
    Inara

    Inara Fierce Fun Fretless Female Supporting Member

    Jun 12, 2017
    Seattle, WA USA
    My source is a post on TB as well, but purports to be relaying a question answered by EBMM president Brian Ball on Reddit ...
    Music Man Caprice: True Boutique Quality

    All I can say is I hope it's true!
     
  39. Jul 30, 2017 #10
    franklindayala

    franklindayala

    Feb 8, 2015
    PERÚ
    Yes.
    Pat is a great guy and a wonderful Luthier. He has a Pat Wilkins club here in talkbass and lots of youtube videos so you can see all of his work.
     
  43. Jul 30, 2017 #11
    Ric5

    Ric5 Supporting Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    Colorado
    Build yourself a 4-2-5 parts bass ... I have been doing that for years ...

    mighty Mite 4 string p-bass neck, with a new nut and a 5th tuner, bridge string spacing 2 1/2".
    upload_2017-7-30_8-15-18.jpeg

    upload_2017-7-30_8-17-1.jpeg
     
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  47. Jul 30, 2017 #12
    Ric5

    Ric5 Supporting Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    Colorado
    upload_2017-7-30_8-18-47.jpeg
     
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  51. Jul 30, 2017 #13
    Zooberwerx

    Zooberwerx Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 21, 2002
    Virginia Beach, VA
    Talk to Mr. Valenti Welcome to ValentiBasses.com

    My P/J 5 has 17 mm spacing center-to-center, 1.75" width at the nut, but is also 33" scale which is a plus in my book. Sports an active preamp w/ passive bypass but I'm sure the harness can be configured to your specs.

    Riis
     
  55. Jul 30, 2017 #14
    Gougedeye

    Gougedeye Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    Central Washington
    You need to find a G&L L-5000!
    g & L L5000 - Google Search:
     
  59. Jul 30, 2017 #15
    ThePresident777

    ThePresident777

    Oct 6, 2013
    For $2k I think you can get a Hammersmith or Carvin.

    I would want something like this with a few changes ($1000):
    img-Escalon-5E_3033.jpg
     
  64. Jul 30, 2017 #16
    ThePresident777

    ThePresident777

    Oct 6, 2013
    Maybe this?

     
  68. Jul 30, 2017 #17
    Lammchop93

    Lammchop93 Supporting Member

    Feb 4, 2007
    Louisville, KY
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2017
  72. Jul 30, 2017 #18
    ThePresident777

    ThePresident777

    Oct 6, 2013
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  76. Jul 30, 2017 #19
    Bob Clayton

    Bob Clayton My P doesn’t have flats or tort Staff Member Supporting Member

    Aug 14, 2001
    Philly Suburbs
  80. Jul 30, 2017 #20
    dfoehr

    dfoehr

    Jan 12, 2006
    PHX
    I don't think the Am Standard P bass is 19mm. I have two of these basses and I think they are 18.5mm.
     
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