Peavey 2x12 w/ black widows.

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by truckin88, Nov 15, 2005.

  1. truckin88


    Oct 18, 2001
    Newburgh, NY
    yesterday I picked up an old skool peavey 2x12 with what I believe are black widows, silver dust caps, looks like the old 2x15's but smaller, had a nice 2x15 sold it, regretted it. found this dirt dirt dirt cheap and picked it up, sounds good, anyone know anything about these?

    -before you start I already know I will regret selling the classic 400, but this cab is now part of the reason, darn PA potholes
  2. ESP-LTD


    Sep 9, 2001
    Peavey made a lot of speakers over the years but I don't recall any bass guitar speakers in 12" in an older cab. I would guess they are guitar speakers.
  3. truckin88


    Oct 18, 2001
    Newburgh, NY
    the problem is the cab looks like the peavey bass cabs of the day, the firdge look, their guitar cabs were different.
  4. peabody

    peabody Supporting Member

    Oct 31, 2002
    La Crosse, WI
    Back in the old days (late 70's early 80's, and yes, being old does have some advantages), as I recall, the Peavey bottoms looked the same from guitar to bass. At one point in time I remember our lead guitar player was playing through a Peavey Standard head and a 2 -15 Peavey cab (yes, 15's), our rhythm guitar player was using a Peavey Musician head and a 2-12 Peavey cab and I was using a Peavey Bass head with a 2-15 peavey bass bottom. All the Peavey bottoms had the same look, black tolex, black grill cloth and the silver metal strips along the side. I think I have a picture somewhere that I'll try to scan that shows this whole set up...along with our drummer's full set of Ludwig Blue VistaLight drums (he sure wishes he had those now...).
  5. truckin88


    Oct 18, 2001
    Newburgh, NY
    nice but how do I know if it is guitar or bass, and do the silver dust cabs mean BWs, if it is for guitar, coul dI just swap the speakers. Thanks.
  6. 62bass


    Apr 3, 2005
    I don't recall that Peavey ever made a 2-12 for bass so it is probably a guitar cabinet. You could contact Peavey and they could tell you. You could also remove the speakers to determine what they are.

    Simply replacing the speakers with bass 12s will probably give disappointing results.
  7. truckin88


    Oct 18, 2001
    Newburgh, NY
    oh well it was only 50 bucks, but sounds bitchen, will contact peavey, just curious on history.
  8. big evil robot

    big evil robot

    Feb 27, 2005
    Edmonton, AB, Canada
    Innovations Music - Retailer
    hey if it sounds good what does it matter
  9. peabody

    peabody Supporting Member

    Oct 31, 2002
    La Crosse, WI
    I don't remember Peavey making a 2 -12 bass cab either.

    They had 2-15's, 1-15 and they finally came up with some cabs that had 18's in them. In fact, I had a little Peavey folded horn bottom with one 18" Black Widow that kicked major butt. It was only about 3 feet high and had the tilt back caster wheels. I know people complain about 18's being muddy, but I never had a cleaner sound than when I used that bottom (again, remember, this is in the 70's-80's)

    When they introduced the Black Widow speakers, they did have the silver dot on the cones, similar to the JBL's at that time.

    I agree with Big Evil Robot....if it sounds good, then it shouldn't matter if it's a guitar or bass cab. Sounds like a pretty good deal at 50 bucks....
  10. truckin88


    Oct 18, 2001
    Newburgh, NY
    Pretty Cool what peavey just emailed me.

    "Hello Will,

    Those old cabinets were just considered "instrument" enclosures, and could have been used with either a guitar or bass amp. The impedance should be 4 ohms. I don't have a spec on the power handling, but if the speakers are Black Widows it would be 500 watts rms. We also used a Ram or Eminence speaker back then with silver dust caps. If it has those I wouldn't use more than 100 150 watts or so.

    The serial numbers on stuff that old are in our database, but from that number I would guess about 1978.

    Hope this was helpful!

    Roger Crimm
    Regional Service Manager
    Peavey Electronics"
  11. gotta love peavey for crap like that, I think hands down they are the best in the business. Who else could give you a PDF of a manual that is over 30 years old and still have people around to help you with the problems on stuff thats is of that "vintage"
  12. BbbyBld


    Oct 13, 2005
    Meridian, MS
    If they are older BWs, you may want to take the speakers out to examine the vents on the back of the magnets. On older models, the foam screen inside deteriorates and falls inside where the voice coil is. It breaks up and sometimes clogs up the gap in the magnet and melts, ruining the speaker basket. It's pretty easy to clean up if you remove the magnet.
  13. 4x4Given


    Jul 2, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Mmm... 1978 Peavey Mark III 400 Series Bass head, mid 80's 215 cab, late 80's 118 sub (also Peavey). I can move a bit of air.

  14. WOW.

    You're such a lucky guy.. I'm using the Mark IV (your bigger brother) right now and I'm looking into an speaker cabinet. But 2x 15" is too big (but sounds ace) , because we need to put everything in one or two cars - including the drumkit.

    That 212 is just perfect.. consider yourself lucky with that :smug:
  15. truckin88


    Oct 18, 2001
    Newburgh, NY
    I had a 2x15 I bought cheap, it was an old one looked like that but had old eminences, it sounded unreal, I put new corners, feet on it, really cleaned it up. I sold it for only $125 I was moving around the country at the time, I regret that. NEVER get rid of it, even if you don't gig, you won't get any money, and you can always use it for home use.