Peavey amp line level/pre question

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by deff, Jun 21, 2020.

  1. deff

    deff

    Oct 15, 2018
    Gloucester, MA
    A friend picked up one of these.
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    His intention is to run it as an amp and use his Throat Locust fuzz as the pre. The monitor amp accepts line level. Will the fuzz be enough to act as a preamp to provide line level as opposed to instrument level? He's already at a bit of a deficit if he doesn't use both 412s to drop the ohm rating from 16 to 8.
     
  2. JTE

    JTE Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 12, 2008
    Central Illinois, USA
    It's a power amp with the graphic EQ built in. Needs to see a line-level signal to operate correctly. If it's a typical guitar FX fuzz, the stomp box is made to work with instrument level signals for both the input and output. He'll need a real preamp of some sort.
     
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  3. deff

    deff

    Oct 15, 2018
    Gloucester, MA
    Thanks for your reply. It seems like mode b on his Earthbound Audio Throat Locust might be a line boost meant to work at preamp level.
     
  4. You can try but doubtful any battery pedal puts out the full 1.4v.
     
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  5. deff

    deff

    Oct 15, 2018
    Gloucester, MA

    I found this on YouTube. In the comments he mentions that he's just using a chord. No pre or pedal.
     
  6. Redbrangus

    Redbrangus Supporting Member

    Nov 19, 2018
    Under The X In Texas
    The amp being used in the video is not the same device as illustrated in the OP's pic; one can see that the front panel layout is different. Regardless, a regular bass guitar output isn't hot enough to drive a line input directly. The PV amp's line input probably doesn't need to see a full 1.4 volts to provide maximum output, but a regular stomp box isn't likely to have enough gain to drive it directly either. Whether that particular pedal has enough gain I can't say, but it certainly wouldn't hurt anything to try it.

    That amp isn't all that powerful; it seems likely that you'll find the amp's output fairly anemic with just an 8-ohm load, given that it's full 130-watt rating is for a 4-ohm load. It will be half that into 8 ohms, so a walloping 65 watts. If the cabs really are 16-ohm boxes, and both cabs are plugged in, that 65 watts will be spread out over 8 drivers, so each driver will be dissipating about 8 watts. Rockin'? Not so much.
     
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  7. Peavey did it by the book so 1.4v standard to full gain is to be expected. Newer Peavey models can switch to .7v for a happier pedal driving experience.
     
  8. Redbrangus

    Redbrangus Supporting Member

    Nov 19, 2018
    Under The X In Texas
    One manual I looked at online stated that a 260 booster amp needs 4.2 volts to drive to full output. That can't be right, can it? That particular amp had an 'aux' in that an additional 10dB of input gain, but otherwise looked identical to the pic in the OP. https://peavey.com/manuals/80361021.pdf
     
  9. 2tonic

    2tonic

    Dec 22, 2015
    Yeah, that's right. The particular model your link refers to can handle speaker level signals (up to 20v/rms) as a "line" level input. It can also, simultaneously, accept a mic plugged directly into the aux input and deliver equivalent gain to drive the amp section.
     
  10. deff

    deff

    Oct 15, 2018
    Gloucester, MA
    An update for anyone interested. The amp works just fine even with regular instrument level. With the Fuzz/Distortion box it is something else. Even with a 16ohm cab it was more than reasonably loud. The guitarist is going to set the 412 cab back to 4 ohms. These would seem to make a really good pedal platform. We were actually shocked at how nice and loud it sounded. Not too bad for $45.