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Peavey BAM 210 - loud enough?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by CrawlingEye, Dec 9, 2001.


  1. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    Ok, I played a BAM 210 in the store...
    I REALLY liked the tone, but I'm not sure if it'd be loud enough as a stand alone (no extra cabs).

    Has anyone ever played it in a band type situation?

    I would totally disregard this if it wasn't for the fact that it's $1300, nearly, and I'll have to sell my current rig for the $$.


    If you have played one in a band situation, how does it hold up?

    I play fairly mid heavy, (mids boosted to about 7, with lows cut).


    I will be able to keep one cab, but I don't want to alter the sound of the entire rig too much... So I'd perfer not using it.


    Thanks in advance... :)
     
  2. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    They were selling it for $1050 at Washington Music Center
     
  3. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania

    That's a damned good price...
    However, I'd still need to sell atleast a cab, in order to get it.

    What're your thoughts?
    (on volume)
    The room I play in is kind of small.

    I, generally play in punk-esque bands, or ska type bands... I'm not afraid to tell someone to turn down, but will it get over your average drummer?
     
  4. Wxp4759cb

    Wxp4759cb

    Nov 23, 2000
    Kansas City, MO
    There are 2 key factors.
    1. Are you running through the PA. If so then it is definently loud enough since you are the only one who has to here. If not, you need a PA. ;)
    2.How loud do your bands play, and do they use distortion. Whenever I play at practices it is plenty plenty loud. I Don't have to turn up past 3, BUT at practices we don't use a PA. When we use a PA I go through the PA and still don't have to turn up very loud. On non-distorted songs 2 is plenty loud.

    Overall loudness.
    I've never turned it up past 5, but I imagine if you cranked it you could move some serious air. When I use it with my 15, it is VERY loud, and can make your ears bleed, BUT the 15 takes away from the BAMs sound, and thusly I don't like doing that. Currently I am working on a project to build another cab using some BAM speakers, that way I will be both loud and sound good.
    Compared to the Firebass it doesn't get quite as loud, BUT it sounds MUCH MUCH MUCH better at high volumes. Any other rig I've played through doesn't perform as well at extreme volumes. The BAM on the other hand sounds the same at full blast as at 1.

    I think it would be loud enough, but I don't know how loud your band plays.
     
  5. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    I can't really say. Based on what I heard in the store, what BassMasterG said sounds accurate.
     
  6. Wxp4759cb

    Wxp4759cb

    Nov 23, 2000
    Kansas City, MO
    Also if you do get to keep one cab, I would keep your 4x10. I made the mistake of trading my 4x10 and keeping my 15. I thought the 15 would give it some extra low end slam, but instead it is just really loud, and overpowers the BAM. I THINK (could be wrong) that a BW is like 107SPL or something crazy like that, and that the BAM is much lower. Then again if you like a mid heavey sound you might like the 15 b/c it has ALOT of mids, which is the exact reason I don't like it.

    If you actually do the math though, don't you have to double the wattage to gain 3dB? If so since the BAM is 500 watts, and the Firebass is 700 I don't think you'd lose to much volume. I might not know what I'm talking about though.

    Now that I re-read your description if all you want to know is if you can compete w/ unmic-ed drums, and the guitars that aren't blasting it would work great. My band practices very loud (I wear ear plugs sometimes) and I never have trouble cutting through.
    If you want to compete against mic-ed drums, 100 watt marshall stacks, and vocals out a PA, then I'm pretty sure it won't work, but I don't think your current rig would work in the second situation either. Also if the drums are mic-ed that means theres a PA, which means you can use the PA too, and won't have a problem!

    I think I'm rambling.
     
  7. Wxp4759cb

    Wxp4759cb

    Nov 23, 2000
    Kansas City, MO
    One last thing to think about is if your 16, you'll be going off to college soon. That is one of the reasons I bought the BAM. I didn't want to haul 300 pounds of equipment up and down a couple flights of stairs every weekend. Plus dorm rooms are SMALL, and there isn't enough space for a full stack, upright, and keyboard. Plus most importantly the BAM rocked my stacks world!
     
  8. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    Hrmm... I infact do play with a lot of mids, my EQ on the BAM was set to boost the highest mid to 7. Lows cut to 4, treble centered at 5.

    The only thing I'm worried about is...
    When I use my 115BXBW with my current rig, it makes me click. I mean, it sounds good, all but the clicking.
    Does the same thing happen with the 115BXBW while being used with the BAM?
     
  9. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    Oh, yeah...
    Are you saying that the BAM (without any cabs) could hold up to a band?

    Take subjective examples away.
    I don't need to be loud enough to make people in houses at the other end of my block go deaf, just enough to get over the drums, and be heard. :)


    I'm assuming it would work, considering it's a tilt-back design. I guess I'm just looking for someone's personal experiences?

    Like I said, I'm not afraid to tell people to turn down... :)
     
  10. Oysterman

    Oysterman

    Mar 30, 2000
    Sweden
    What is the BAM, 250W without extension cabinet? My 2x10" combo is 240W, and it does hold up quite well in a loud rock band. I never turn the volume knob past one o'clock and I am pretty comfortable even with a hard-hitting drummer.

    But on the other hand, if I had the possibilty of adding an extension cab I would do it in an instant... just to feel even more comfortable. :D
     
  11. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania

    Actually it's 350 watts.
    The reason I don't want to add the extension cab is because I don't want to alter the sound...
     
  12. rcrimm

    rcrimm Commercial User

    Jun 20, 2000
    Meridian, MS USA
    Customer Service, Peavey Electronics
    I think the BAM would be loud enough on it's own. You won't blow anybody off the stage with it, but it will definitely hold it's own.

    My rule of thumb is that you need at least 300 watts if your stage volume is average loud.
    With a really loud stage volume, you probably need an extension cab or a more powerful amp (at least 600 watts).
     
  13. Wxp4759cb

    Wxp4759cb

    Nov 23, 2000
    Kansas City, MO
    Like I said if your just talking about jamming I'm sure its more than loud enough.
     
  14. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    Thanks!

    The verdict is in:

    I'm going BAM hunting!
     
  15. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    Oh yeah, if Rcrimm sees this, could you find out if the BAM's speakers are flat speakers? (in response)


    Thanks! :)
     
  16. Oysterman

    Oysterman

    Mar 30, 2000
    Sweden
    Flat speakers? In an instrument speaker enclosure? Not at that price... probably not at any price! ;)
     
  17. I tried one and I didn't like it...first thing, the amp was too noisy on it (did it have a barn fan in it?). Then I plugged a 5-string in (Peavey G-V) and put the effect on octaver, plucked the b string and watched the speakers...they shook more visibly than my fat white @$$ after getting buttonhooked! And the effects were kinda cheesy...
     
  18. Oysterman

    Oysterman

    Mar 30, 2000
    Sweden
    Well, what did you expect? Angel's choir?
     
  19. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    I'll answer this in squence.

    1) I didn't find it noisey
    2) Where did basses come into this?
    3) Why would you play a low b with an octave pedal on, in the first place?
    4) I've already played the BAM, I'm quite fond of it's tone. That has already been established.
    5) I don't use effects.
     
  20. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania

    I don't know what they have in euro-land.
    However, in the U.S. many companies make flat instrument speakers (Acme? Epifani?)

    Also, the combo uses custom made eminence speakers, or atleast that's the "most likely" speaker it uses.

    It'd only seem logical that they'd be flat, or close to it, with the combo using speaker/cabinet modeling, also. :)