I played one of these at the local music shop today, and I really liked it. The neck felt great, and the action was nice and low, with no buzzing or other noises. A search here yields many opinions on the Grind NTB. Alot of people didn't like it, thought it was shoddily constructed. I thought it was built great for an import. This store also had a Redwood Peavey Cirrus 4 for sale. I played them both, and I think this little Grind NTB sounded nearly as good as the Cirrus through the Hartke 120 watt practice amp they had for testing products. Of course, alot of people say the quality of these is widely varied. I can kind of vouch for that. The store also had a 5 string version of the same bass. I didn't like that one. The B string didn't come through well at all. But it was still nicely constructed, and of very good quality workmanship wise. Anyone here own one? I'm curious about how intensively you have to clean this bass since it has no finish per say. I heard someone say they get really dirty after awhile from the oil in your hands and such. Is there a way to prevent that? I think it would be a nice step up from my current beginner bass if I decided to buy it.