Peavey Millennium BXP vs SX?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by IotaNet, Jan 19, 2006.

  1. IotaNet

    IotaNet Supporting Member

    To the Group -

    Last night I had a thought and spent some time searching the forums to investigate. That process led to this post.

    Usually, when someone asks about a "Cheap Bass," the first thing folks tend to suggest is an SX (Essex for the search engine.) They go on to discuss how they probably need to be upgraded to make them "sweet" and such. Don't get me wrong -- I have no problem with that.

    I was looking however, at the MF website and saw the Peavey Millennium BXP's (5 and 4-string/active and passive.) These basses are selling for +/- $200 depending on configuration. They seem to be okay enough for entry-level axes and to my eyes, what you get out of the box seems to be equal to an "fixed-up" SX.

    Quick point of comparison -- the SX 5-string Jazz is $129 + about $29 for shipping. That's $158. Add the money for new pots/pups/etc. and you're up to around $200.

    The Peavey 5-string is right around $200/$250 (depending on if you get the active or passive) and I don't hear anything about bad necks/frets/or electronics on these.

    I'm not hating on SX or the people who love them -- I'm just curious about why no emphatic recommendations for the Peavey BXP's?
  2. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    The Peaveys do not have the classic Fender profile. SX is popular because they look like Fenders. Peavey import Millenniums are just solid basses for people on a budget, they sort of fit the Fender profile, but they are not the exact copies that Sx mainly makes.
  3. P + V = onus

    while there are actually quite a few people around here who appreciate peavey, i think the name still struggles with its past. very few people seem interested in recommending a peavey that isn't a cirrus or a classic 400.

    as for my experience, i did QA on a bunch of millenium 4s one day. it was not very fun. nice instruments, but i have no SX experience with which to compare them. i only had a guitar amp to check that they had output. i never got to really listen or play.

    [edit]while the above is true, i think dr. cheese really got it right. they're not fender enough.[/edit]

  4. Philbiker

    Philbiker Pat's the best!

    Dec 28, 2000
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Good point Iota. IME import Peaveys are orders of magnitude better instruments than SXes or even Brices.
  5. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla Supporting Member

    Agreed. I've played AND owned both. The Peaveys are better, no doubt about it...
  6. Vox Populi

    Vox Populi Reggae Loving Honkey

    Jan 27, 2004
    Poulsbo, WA
    I owned a Millennium BXP. It was my first bass.

    They're great instruments, which sound surprisingly nice. Now they have the active Millennium AC BXPs which are also great.
  7. I actually still own my very first bass, which just happens to be a Peavey Millenium 4 BXP. It, to this day is still my main four stringer. Plenty of great times to be had with this bass. I have learned alot on this bass, including how to service my own bass, restring, and truss rod adjustments.

    The playabilty is off the wall for a bass of this price. Easily over powers the Ibanez GSR line of basses IMO... And keep in mind, I actually own an SR406, so no hating going on at all.

    No matter how many Cirri Peavey puts out, no matter what features they offer, or what different species of wood combos, I don't think they will ever outrun their past, which is a darn shame considering the quality of their products today, Fury and Millenium lines included. (Maybe Peavey should start to follow in the footsteps of Ibanez, and start advertising guys like eVil J from Otep more to appeal to the younger metal crowd.)

    I honestly can't say enough great things about thes BXP Milleniums. The only thing I would change, is making the pots Vol/Blend/Tone, but hey, it's supposed to be a Jazz bass, and when it comes to down right Jazz bass-esqueness, do what Fender does.

  8. that's about all they do, in terms of copy -- push the new hardcore line. the amount of advertising is really the issue. when was the last time you saw a good peavey advert in several publications at once? any banner adverts? anything noteworthy like other companies?


  9. Zachass

    Zachass Peavey Partizan

    I gotta say I don't mind peavey's bad rep, keeps the prices on these basses especially used american models nice and low. I'll take quality sound at a nice price over rep any day.
  10. rok51


    Sep 2, 2002
    Crawfordville, FL
    I gotta agree. I turned to Peavey basses in 1981 with my T-40. It was new, free, and I wasn't sure I'd like it much compared to my P. I am in no way embarassed to state that I now play only Peavey basses (no, I am not good enough to be an endorsee, lol!). Over the years I have found them to be consistent, reliable, easy to play and they have given me the sound that I wanted. Yes, they were reasonably priced...even the Cirrus. I played the 4 and 5 BXP Millenium (and ACs) when they first hit and I couldn't believe the playability or tone at their respective price points. The only Peavey basses that I really haven't cared for were the Milestone (plywood) and the early Grind NTBs which I found way too variable in quality control-very unsual for Peavey.

    my .02

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  11. what's wrong with plywood? my lyon by washburn P clone is made of plywood, and it's the most resonant sounding bass i've ever played. the parker fly is, essentially, made of [high quality] plywood.

    we had to change factories a couple times with the grind NTB basses. the factory in vietnam where they were originally built made good samples and went to crap after the first production run. i don't know that they're still made in vietnam.

  12. Vox Populi

    Vox Populi Reggae Loving Honkey

    Jan 27, 2004
    Poulsbo, WA
    I get my Peavey Forum AX tomorrow and I can't wait to play it.
  13. christle

    christle Supporting Member

    Jan 26, 2002
    Winnipeg, MB
    Awesome! As for the SX vs. Peavey - Peavey all the way. It's not even a contest IMO.
  14. +1, However, the older Grind BXP was a tremendously awesome instrument... I have no idea why they decided to compete in the 'el cheapo exotic wood and neck-through' bass-off with washburn and aria, and ruin a perfectly great bass.

  15. I havent ever played a SX, but my Millenium BXP is wonderful. It is very mellow, you really have to work to get it bright, even with brand new strings. The neck is nice and thin, and not too wide for a 5 either. They are really good basses (especially for the money).
  16. Philbiker

    Philbiker Pat's the best!

    Dec 28, 2000
    Northern Virginia, USA
    The made in Vietnam Grind NTB 6 string I played was excellent all around. My only complaint was that it was unbelievably heavy! It was as if it was made of lead. Heaviest bass I've ever held by a very vast margin. I could have never owned it. Sounded, looked, and played great though!

    As for Peavey's "rep". I don't think it's bad among well informed musicians. I've been playing Peavey basses for over 15 years now, recently I bought my first Peavey amp, a modest little head. They have a reputation for making stuff that is servicable, unbreakable, sometimes very good, particularly in the high end, and fairly priced. Their stuff can usually equal or better the competition at all price points, all the way from the most modest Microbass practice amp to the most exotic Cirrus.

    I've read up a little on Hartley Peavey and his company. The more I learn about Peavey the man and the company the more I want to patronize them.

    I'm still tickled pink with the insane deal I got on my NOS USA made Millenium.
  17. SGT. Pepper

    SGT. Pepper Banned

    Nov 20, 2005
    BXP's are better out of the box than SX's.
  18. rok51


    Sep 2, 2002
    Crawfordville, FL
    Nothing wrong with plywood! Should have been more specific...I was just refering to that particular Milestone bass that I didn't care just happened to be 'plywood'. Heck, my '58 Dano longhorn (original) was two pieces of masonite separated by a series of little pine sounded fine, lol!

    I looked at a new NTB...both the wood and fretwork were a lot better than the majority of earlier ones I had played. The 'scallop' is gone from the newer ones, making them easier to spot.

  19. Vox Populi

    Vox Populi Reggae Loving Honkey

    Jan 27, 2004
    Poulsbo, WA
    I'm loving my Peavey Forum AX. :)