peavey TVX 412

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by SRSiegel, Nov 9, 2001.

  1. SRSiegel

    SRSiegel Guest

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ann Arbor, Michigan
    does anyone have any opinions of this cab? it seems that 4 12's would be good for a 5 string player such as myself who wants more bottom, as it is advertised as having a frequency response down to 25 Hz. but it is stated on peavey's website that the cab is tuned to 50 Hz. wouldnt it then be bad for the drivers to put any sort of frequency below 50 Hz into the cab? like a 31 Hz B struing... is this poor design or am i just paranoid?
     
  2. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    I don't know the specs, I have heard them several times. Big sound and handled a B string well. My only negative was weight.
     
  3. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    I own one and it is the best for me, that I've ever had.

    I play the 5 string Cirrus through it and it handles loads of power and I can hammer on the low B and the speakers do not break up. Very, very clean sounding cabinet.

    It is a heavy mother at about 110 lbs. But it's on removable casters so it is really not all that bad. I too, like to use just one cabinet and 410 cabs just don't cut it for me and though I like 15's, a single 15 cab didn't really do it for me either.

    I suggest you play through one with your own head (or rack...I use a Peavey MAX pre-amp and a CS800S to drive it) and your own bass to hear it for yourself. Personally I love the 12's...it is a very deep, punchy cabinet that handles a low B exceptionally well. But, that's how I feel about it with MY setup and playing style. You won't know for sure until you try it for yourself though.
     
  4. SRSiegel

    SRSiegel Guest

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ann Arbor, Michigan
    thanks for the opinions guys, keep em comin! does anyone know what a used 412 TVX or TXF cab might go for on the used market? im trying to see if theres a smaller yet louder alternative to my 210+18 stack...

    btw soundogue, how many watts does that poweramp put out? 800? ya think 700 would be sufficient?
     
  5. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    I've only seen them new, so I don't know what the price would run used.

    I run the CS800S bridged, so it's putting out 1200 watts into 4 ohms (the 412TVX only comes in 4 ohms).

    The 412TVX handles 450 watts RMS and 900 watts program. I like the extra headroom, but I did use a Carvin R600 with the 412TVX and at 600 watts it was fine.
     
  6. SRSiegel

    SRSiegel Guest

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ann Arbor, Michigan
    thanks soundogue. i have an R600 right now, i was just wondering if i could get ample power/volume from it. i play in a loud classic rock band, and although my current rig is deep and clear, its just not loud enough, and our PA isnt good enough to handle bass.
     
  7. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    I absolutely loved my R600. It was plenty loud with the 412TVX.

    I just like having the extra headroom and got a great deal on the Peavey rack mount stuff (had I found a similar deal for the R1000, I wouldn't have hesitated to stay with the Carvin head).

    You'll be really happy with that combination. As soon as I got the 412TVX, the first gig with it (and I play pretty much the same kind of music in the same situation), it was like night and day. With the R600, I instantly loved the tone of that cab. It made a huge difference.

    In fact, I should point out that although my band already has an awesome PA, our soundguy said that my setup put out enough (in a pretty big room) where he didn't even hardly need me in the PA. Of course I was kind of excited about the sound and I got a little carried away with my volume that night. :)
     
  8. SRSiegel

    SRSiegel Guest

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ann Arbor, Michigan
    thanks again, yeah i think im just used to the rather weak sound of my carvin 210. does having a better cab really "open up" the sound that much more from the head? i dont think my 210 cab is efficient at all. its rated at 400 watts RMS, and theres no doubt it can handle it, as the R600 puts 700 watts into it, it just kinda eats all that power and doesnt take advantage of it.
     
  9. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    Well, on the back of my Carvin head (which I pulled out of the RC210 combo) it clearly says it puts out 700 watts into 4 ohms, but after talking with support at Carvin, they said it was a misprint on the back of the amp and that it, in fact, only puts out 600 watts into 4 ohms.

    Having said that, my combo (with the 2 - 10" speakers) was a little weak with a low B at higher volumes.

    At first I pulled the head out of the combo and used a Peavey 115BXBW cab and it significantly improved both my tone and volume capabilities. But even with that, going to the 412TVX and using the Carvin bridged, it just opened up a whole new world in tone and volume that even the 15 could not handle.

    The 412TVX will definitely give you more volume and punch...the dynamics will be instantly noticable (even with the Carvin R600 head). You will hear your playing in a whole new way that the 210 (or even a 410) cab just can't touch.
     
  10. SRSiegel

    SRSiegel Guest

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ann Arbor, Michigan
    thanks, how annoying about the R600. oh well. yeah im looking for a loud speaker thats got good bottom but still punchy. hopefully this can fit the bill when i have some more cash.
     
  11. mah

    mah Guest

    Sep 10, 2001
    Edgerton,Ohio
    i have peavey 410tvx and 115bxbw cabnets and it works with my 5 string just fine ...lots of bottom end if u want it;)
     
  12. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    Yes, it can make a tremendous difference. If you can, take your head to a store and check out cabs there. It can be a real eye opener.
     
  13. SRSiegel

    SRSiegel Guest

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ann Arbor, Michigan
    schweet.... anyone know what an extra kidney can be sold for on the black market?
     
  14. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    Depends on who needs it and what they're willing to spend on it.

    As much as I am a champion of the new Peavey products...that is a tad bit extreme. :)
     
  15. SRSiegel

    SRSiegel Guest

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ann Arbor, Michigan
    dont worry, i'm only kidding about the kidney. i think i will be keeping all of my vital organs... unless you consider old hardware vital organs...
     
  16. EString

    EString Guest

    Nov 20, 2000
    Los Altos, CA
    I love the idea of a 4x12 for bass. Unfortunately, the Peavey is significantly larger than a 6x10, which would be just as loud, or a 2x15, which would have better lows.
     
  17. SRSiegel

    SRSiegel Guest

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ann Arbor, Michigan
    this is true, the thing would be huge... but im looking for a substitute for a 210 +118 stack. i know it will be a step down in "hi-fi" quality, as my rig is currently biamped, but then again playing in a loud classic rock cover band isnt about hi fi quality sound. in the even that i do purchase a 412, i think ill probably still keep my 18 cab too. my current stack is almost 6 feet tall, so size isnt a big deal to me :cool:
     
  18. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    I would like to hear the cabinet that handles the low B as well as my 412 (and I mean a single cab that does that in addition to the rest of the frequencies).

    I use to be a 15" fan...until I played through the 412TVX.

    I've played through alot of 410 cabs and I dislike them all. Just my opinion...I don't like Peavey's 410 either, though I usually promote their gear.
     
  19. SRSiegel

    SRSiegel Guest

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ann Arbor, Michigan
    yeah i am quite amazed by the frequency response claimed by peavey. if in fact it is flat to 30 Hz (sorry i made mistake with the 25) then it blows my 18, as well as many others away. if im correct the average 15 or 18 cabinet is only flat to around 40 Hz, good for a 4 string, inadequate for a 5.
     
  20. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    I don't even go by specs all that much. Regardless of what specs "say"...it is more important what you actually hear.

    I've played through cabs that seem to have all the right specs, but then blow big time, like they've got cones made of wet paper, when really pushed by a loud and low frequency.

    There is no better specification than my own ears (or yours). Like all bass gear, it needs to be played through to thoroughly judge it properly.

    All I know is, I can pick from anything I want...I've got the money for it. But, I played through the 412TVX and it is just flat out the best I could find for a single cabinet.

    It it far punchier, cleaner and better able to handle the low B better than any 118, 810, 410, 210, 115 or 215 configuration I could find.

    Yeah, it's heavy. I have yet to find a lightweight bass cabinet that was worth anything at all. All bass gear is heavy (which is a relative term anyway). I mean, short of playing through a cardboard box, weight will always be an issue with our gear.

    The frequancy response is wonderful (to my ear) regardless of what the specs actually say.