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Pecanic tail pieces

Discussion in 'Setup & Repair [DB]' started by Don Higdon, Sep 20, 2003.


  1. I was wrong; bigtime.
    Some months ago, Monte was enthusing over a new compensated tail piece that he got from Mike Pecanic. I argued on a theoretical basis that the concept was flawed.
    Fast forward. Arnold Schnitzer was enthusing over the quality of Mike's work, which he saw at ISB.
    I called Mike. We talked for an hour. Brains and an hysterical sense of humor.
    I mailed pictures of my bass to Mike, and he selected 4, count 'em, 4 beautiful woods to make 4 tailpieces which he sent from California to Jersey just so I could look at them.
    Arnold did the setup.
    The sound is beautiful, and the tailpiece is drop-dead beautiful to see.
    Theory is great, but there's no substitute for the experience of hearing this. I was so wrong.
    The Pecanic tailpiece works. And you can't find a nicer guy to deal with.
     
  2. Adrian Cho

    Adrian Cho Supporting Member

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ottawa, Canada
    I had Mike make me a tailpiece out of Claro Walnut. It's gorgeous and is a feature on my bass. Here is a pic:

    [​IMG]
     
  3. kip

    kip

    Sep 11, 2002
    Sausalito, Ca
    Drool.

    Mike is making me one out of that Claro Walnut. We further brainstormed over a variation that accomadates loop end strings (like Velvet's) and compensated frets. Not sure yet if that will work, as Velvet prefers that the entire loop end be unemcumbered. Still, no biggee, as you can also setup the loop ends as Velvet indicates.
    Dr. Mike loves problem solving and his work.
     
  4. Adrian Cho

    Adrian Cho Supporting Member

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ottawa, Canada
    Can you explain why you need special treatment for the Velvets? I used the Velvets with the loop ends on the above tailpiece and there was no problem. Are you saying that Velvet recommends not having the "fret" on the tailpiece?
     
  5. kip

    kip

    Sep 11, 2002
    Sausalito, Ca
    Adrian, when you sting the Velvet's on your tailpiece you have effectively bypassed the fret as the the loop is the stop and it is at the top of the tailpiece.

    What Mike is doing, and there are several variations, is simply to drill an additional hole above the traditional string slot, and below the fret for looping purposes, and then the string passes over the fret, compensated or not. kind of hard to explain, I'll post a pic when it arrives, or Mike could if he reads this.

    One of the variations we discussed was to place a peg on the back of the tailpice above each notch and just loop the string around the peg. I was concerned that when installing the strings, they may keep falling off the peg until you get adequate tension.
     
  6. Don, how was it set up? Afterlength 1/6 the mensure, or?

    And in what way did it change the sound of your bass?

    Aside from material, does it vary in other ways (dimensions?) from a conventional ebony tailpiece?
     
  7. Go to the website and look up the compensated tailpiece. You'll see that the distance from the bridge varies on each string, which was what I questioned. The G distance was more like 1/5.
    The sound has not changed, the E might be a little less tension.
     
  8. So why won't the tailpieces work with Pirastro gut strings?
     
  9. Monte

    Monte

    Jan 9, 2001
    New Albany, MS
    I can answer that, as I was the first one to discover it, unfortunately. The Eudoxa's are not long enough to reach the E. I've since heard that Pirastro can make you a long E.

    I didn't realize it at the time, but the Pirastro E is signifigantly shorter than a steel E.

    Mike Pecanic took my compensated back and made me a standard that was just beautiful out of Wenge.

    Monte
     
  10. Marcus Johnson

    Marcus Johnson

    Nov 28, 2001
    Maui
    Damn, he does nice work. I'd say his website qualifies as luthier porn.
     
  11. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    I ordered this one today:

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Chris Fitzgerald

    Chris Fitzgerald Student of Life Staff Member Administrator

    Oct 19, 2000
    Louisville, KY
    Damn. I never thought I'd say that a tailpiece was sexy*, but if ever one was, that one is. Hubba HUBBA!







    * Speaking of basses only here, of course.
     
  13. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    Yeah, once he sent me the pics, I was powerless!

    Here's a few more:

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
  15. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    I've got 44 of these! Somebody stop me!

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Experiencing....severe...G.A.S. ......

    Must...find...relief.....

    Bring.......me.........checkbook......NOW!......
     
  17. John Sprague

    John Sprague Sam Shen's US Distributor

    Mar 10, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Sales Manager, CSC Products Inc.
    I spent an inordinate amount of time at Mike's booth at the ISB, just holding these beauties, when I should have been at my own booth. All of my breaks away led me down that aisle. Anyone with any artistic taste at all can't resist them. Plus I got to shoot the baloney with Mike alot, which is always cool. With Dr. Mike if you put in a nickel, you get a quarter back, conversationally speaking.
     
  18. kip

    kip

    Sep 11, 2002
    Sausalito, Ca
     
  19. mpm

    mpm

    May 10, 2001
    Los Angeles
    Wow, guys, thanks for all the nice words....I appreciate your responses. By the way, they're fun to make besides!
     
  20. Gentleman,
    I am also taken with the beautiful craftsmanship of these Tailpieces and, I am also considering joining the long line of DROOLING T/Ber's and investing in one of Mike's masterpieces however, before doing so , could those in the know please answer the following questions.
    1. Putting aside for one moment the "Black Label Penthouse" (As Marcus used the term "Luthier's Porn)LOOK! that Mike has created in these masterpieces. What am I missing out on by staying with the standard tailpiece that came with my bass?
    2. If I was to get into one of Mike's models, what is the benefit of angled slots against horizontal?
    3.Why the frets ? is that to stop possible Buzzezzzzzzzz! or what?
    4. Does the different woods used on the tailpieces give different tones to your bass?
    If so what is the recommended wood for say a Plywood Bass?

    Would appreciate,some advice on the above.
    And YES they are ALL beautiful pieces of work:cool: